Congradulations to the Winners

[gonzo]

Way to go Playboy!

Your support of pirates and content theft by giving a silent nod of approval with your recent skinning GFY is the latest great cash grab!
The thieves have yet another way of monitizing stolen content and your helping get the word out!

[Toby]

A slap in the face to everyone else in the industry.

I just pulled all of their galleries from my databases.

[DannyCox]

All I can say is ... "WOW!"

[RawAlex]

While I would hate to cry "mutiny", I think it is time for everyone to put the pressure on GFY - time for a pullout, leave the board to the surfers.

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

While I would hate to cry "mutiny", I think it is time for everyone to put the pressure on GFY - time for a pullout, leave the board to the surfers.

Watch their alexa ratings for next month, wont impact them at all I bet.

Once upon a time when the boards were dominated by people who were here to make money and do business as opposed to the beer money crowd, a move like that would've found a board all but left for dead.

If there were justice, people would pack up and leave, sponsors would cancel their ads, etc. And I'm not saying they should all come here, but go anywhere other than GFY.

As is, Playboy just basically spat in all of their faces, and they're all so addicted to sitting around over there and refreshing that board every 10 minutes that they cant envision leaving. Pop a xanax, smoke a joint, and life goes on....

I get more disgusted every day.

[Hell Puppy]

[tony404]

its like today is the day the music died. its so sad and so unnecessary.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

While I would hate to cry "mutiny", I think it is time for everyone to put the pressure on GFY - time for a pullout, leave the board to the surfers.

Prompts me to post about this new policy on Oprano....

Effective immediately there is a ban on any sigs or links or announcements for adult.com, playboy.com, realitycash.com and GFY.

I dont promote content theft and this board will not be used to do so as well.

[spazlabz]

It is what it is. I think it wont impact G F Y at all traffic or income wise. But it was an education for some that may be newer to the business


spaz

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by spazlabz

It is what it is. I think it wont impact G F Y at all traffic or income wise. But it was an education for some that may be newer to the business


spaz

Im not deluded enough to think it will have any impact at all.

[gonzo]

As I sit and reflect though the real news isnt this so much as who owns pornhub and 8tube . . .

Zimm and staff certainly arent standing still these days!

[bluemoney]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Prompts me to post about this new policy on Oprano....

Effective immediately there is a ban on any sigs or links or announcements for adult.com, playboy.com, realitycash.com and GFY.

I dont promote content theft and this board will not be used to do so as well.

I'm on board with that

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by bluemoney

I'm on board with that

They hypocracy is rising.
Tony tells me they banned Steve Lightspeed... I guess it was the flexing of the street cred.
Ive seen people trying to get back in the biz there looking to be thrown a bone and the battle lines being drawn.

Raffi from World Wide Content being in those threads I think is the most amusing thing I saw. Its obvious he was able to cut a few licensing deals.
Of course history tell us that hes not beyond trying to take a site he doesnt own and selling it off to Platinum Bucks.

Victoria Givens says hi Raffi!

[RawAlex]

Actually Steve Lightspeed got booted for the same reason most of us do, actually linking to another webmaster board. It brings the hypocrisy into a fine light, it is acceptable to take money from a company that had made it's bones "borrowing" content from everyone else, but it is somehow wrong to admit there are other webmaster boards?

Someone in a better position than I needs to get AVN and Xbiz to run "Playboy supports content theft" pieces, get the word out there. Perhaps even the mainstream media might pick up on it (bad for playboy stock?)

[Toby]

The quartet practiced in the park,
And we sang dirges in the dark
The day the music died.

[Hell Puppy]

It's kinda like having your flat screen TV stolen and then having someone knock on your door and offer to sell it back to you.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

It's kinda like having your flat screen TV stolen and then having someone knock on your door and offer to sell it back to you.

Good one

[RawAlex]

Worse,they are going to sell you stolen cable service monthly too!

[Toby]

As long as other programs keep sending these thieves cross sales and making deals to let them run their vids on the tubes with affiliate links, it makes zero difference what the rest of us do.

When it finally comes crashing down for all of us those programs will be standing there asking themselves, "what the fuck happened?"

[EmporerEJ]

Look, I never gave a rat's ass about GFY, and I still don't.
It's a surfer's board.
I might go there to advertise (for free of course,) and get a sig notice, but never as a serious conversation.

The only boards I ever used regularly were Amateurmasters, and right here, Oprano.

(Even though that fat bastard Gonzo STILL owes me donuts)


.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ

Look, I never gave a rat's ass about GFY, and I still don't.
It's a surfer's board.
I might go there to advertise (for free of course,) and get a sig notice, but never as a serious conversation.

The only boards I ever used regularly were Amateurmasters, and right here, Oprano.

(Even though that fat bastard Gonzo STILL owes me donuts)


.

Gonzo owes you donuts?? there is drama in the making there

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by JFK

Gonzo owes you donuts?? there is drama in the making there

Yea......way back a few years, like, 6 or 7, he promised me donuts at a little midnight get together at Krsipy Kremes Excalibur Hotel. Just a few friends and webmasters, you know?

So, I get there, and that bastard is on his way out, damn fur coat, a chic on each arm, and all the donut boxes empty. Not a Kreme left for poor 'ole EJ. (Or any donuts.)

[JFK]

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ

Yea......way back a few years, like, 6 or 7, he promised me donuts at a little midnight get together at Krsipy Kremes Excalibur Hotel. Just a few friends and webmasters, you know?

So, I get there, and that bastard is on his way out, damn fur coat, a chic on each arm, and all the donut boxes empty. Not a Kreme left for poor 'ole EJ. (Or any donuts.)

I remember that get together , I got there too late, but I have pics of the sugar falls somewhere

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ

Yea......way back a few years, like, 6 or 7, he promised me donuts at a little midnight get together at Krsipy Kremes Excalibur Hotel. Just a few friends and webmasters, you know?

So, I get there, and that bastard is on his way out, damn fur coat, a chic on each arm, and all the donut boxes empty. Not a Kreme left for poor 'ole EJ. (Or any donuts.)

i think that was when private ivy was offering to feed him donuts back at the king tut suite...

[Buckwheat]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

i think that was when private ivy was offering to feed him donuts back at the king tut suite...

I want me a coat like that . . . sho is bad!

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

i think that was when private ivy was offering to feed him donuts back at the king tut suite...

That's him.......!

That's the bastard officer!
I'd recognize him anywhere!

Put him away!

[Toby]

Originally Posted by JFK

...I got there too late, but I have pics of the sugar falls somewhere...

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ

...So, I get there, and that bastard is on his way out, damn fur coat, a chic on each arm...

And the abject lesson here: Show up late to a FFN event and you'll probably go hungry.

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by Toby

And the abject lesson here: Show up late to a FFN event and you'll probably go hungry.

We quit going hungry waiting on people a few years back...

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by Toby

And the abject lesson here: Show up late to a FFN event and you'll probably go hungry.

I remember arriving very close to the appointed hour.....
But I AM getting older.....and perhaps the memory fails......

NEVERTHELESS!

Donuts, are owed. And DONUTS, I shall have.

[RawAlex]

EJ, here's the thing: if you show up and post looking for traffic, you are just supporting them. In the end, every post is a positive vote.

Just say no, and tell your sponsors, friends, and program owners the same thing.

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

EJ, here's the thing: if you show up and post looking for traffic, you are just supporting them. In the end, every post is a positive vote.

Just say no, and tell your sponsors, friends, and program owners the same thing.

Yea, here's the thing on that.
I only went there to see what Gonzo was fussing about.
Otherwise, i never would'a been there. See?

That's kinda what I'm saying.

[Cleo]

Maybe you could get some used donuts from him now.

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by Cleo

Maybe you could get some used donuts from him now.

No recycled donuts........that's just wrong.

I like VIRGIN donuts.

[LAJ]

I'm done posting there. Not gonna bother posting an exit thread... will just bring more posts.

Well, one thing is certain. Anyone who continues to hang out there has IMO lost their right to bitch about piracy, and how bad business has been for them.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by LAJ

I'm done posting there. Not gonna bother posting an exit thread... will just bring more posts.

Well, one thing is certain. Anyone who continues to hang out there has IMO lost their right to bitch about piracy, and how bad business has been for them.

Last I heard morons are using those threads to try and generate business for secured streaming which consists of posting the user IP as a layer into the video.

Now aint that a massive deterrent?

If it can be played on the screen it can be scraped.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by gonzo

...If it can be played on the screen it can be scraped.

Yup, and as soon as the number of sites using that method has reached critical mass there will be some industrious college student code a free utility to make capturing the stream a snap.

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by Toby

Yup, and as soon as the number of sites using that method has reached critical mass there will be some industrious college student code a free utility to make capturing the stream a snap.

FACT: if you can view it, you can capture it.

you can make it harder for the masses to grab it. but no matter how difficult you make it, there's some jack ass out there who will grab it and convert it right back to an open format and post it on torrents, newsgroups, fileshare sites, boards, etc.

i believe for the future, smart money finds where the balance is. you want it easily viewed by the paying customer. but you also want it watermarked and find that line between easily viewed by a noob, but enough of a challenge to capture to deter the casual thief.

the determined thief is going to steal your stuff no matter what. likewise there's a very large segment of people out there who absolutely will not pay for content, you'll never force 'em to do so. dont cost yourself paying customers trying to do so.

[tony404]

Originally Posted by LAJ

I'm done posting there. Not gonna bother posting an exit thread... will just bring more posts.

Well, one thing is certain. Anyone who continues to hang out there has IMO lost their right to bitch about piracy, and how bad business has been for them.

Amen Jay

[gonzo]

Please pass the word that if anyone has been banned or left the land of the content thieves that I have something for them.

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by LAJ

I'm done posting there. Not gonna bother posting an exit thread... will just bring more posts.

Well, one thing is certain. Anyone who continues to hang out there has IMO lost their right to bitch about piracy, and how bad business has been for them.

good for you, it'll be telling to see how many people vote with their feet.

i expect to be disappointed but not surprised.

[RawAlex]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

good for you, it'll be telling to see how many people vote with their feet.

i expect to be disappointed but not surprised.

There appears to be any number voting with their feet, including some major posters. It is clear that it is driving a line down the middle, where people are taking sides. The one that surprises me the most is Shap, who in the last couple of years has gone from protective content producer to man with a copyright on "porn tube" or whatever who is willing to sue and support his fellow tube owners. So Gonzo, you can add twistys cash shap cash and all to your list of active supporters of illegal tubes.

[softball]

I missed the whole thing. Can anyone give me a sketch summary?

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

I missed the whole thing. Can anyone give me a sketch summary?

• GFY skinned itself with a tube trafficker....i.e. we steal your content then sell you back the traffic we generate with it.
• Many see that as GFY smacking the whole industry in the face
• Much debate here on whether those addicted to GFY will leave
• EJ wants a donut
• Does turn out to be a divisive issue on GFY, many getting banned intentionally and leaving (for now)
• Erika is dressing and eating much better these days

[AdorableAudrey]

Gonzo you look very sexy in that hat!!!

I have read that board a few times but even though people say it's good for traffic, I just don't like it there, never posted there. Seems like too much drama, sexism, and generally annoying-ness for me, if I want to put up with that I'll log back into my cam sites and make some money while I'm at it. You know I shun the boards anyway

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by AdorableAudrey

Gonzo you look very sexy in that hat!!!

I have read that board a few times but even though people say it's good for traffic, I just don't like it there, never posted there. Seems like too much drama, sexism, and generally annoying-ness for me, if I want to put up with that I'll log back into my cam sites and make some money while I'm at it. You know I shun the boards anyway

ahhhhh, what d'you know? Damn women, are all the same.




(You know I'm kidding....right?)

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by AdorableAudrey

Gonzo you look very sexy in that hat!!!

I have read that board a few times but even though people say it's good for traffic, I just don't like it there, never posted there. Seems like too much drama, sexism, and generally annoying-ness for me, if I want to put up with that I'll log back into my cam sites and make some money while I'm at it. You know I shun the boards anyway

What hat is that?

[sarettah]

Got this yesterday:

Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 7:08 PM
Subject: RealityCash Downtime Tonight


Dear Webmasters:

We are horribly sorry about the late notice on this.

The servers that RealityCash resides on are being moved to another datacenter. We originally were told this would have minimal downtime, but we are now finding out it may be longer.

They are going to be taking them down at 8pm PST tonight and bringing them back up as quickly thereafter as they can.

We value your business and wanted to get this out to you in case you want to make changes on your side.

In an effort to make it up to you we are going to do an expanded promo for you all next week. We will announce the new expanded promo on Monday. The current promo will still run throughout the weekend as well.

Let us know if you have any questions.

RealityCash Team
wmsupport@adult.com

You would think with the amount of money they have and the staff they have and the staff that Jupiter has that they could pull off a server move.

But noooooo. They are still down right now (at least gfy is) and that is somewhere in the 14hour mark if it actually got started in the 8pst time frame last night.

I don't know, I am old so I was off the computer before that last night.

Gotta love it.

[Tjeezers]

so they will do what with them oney they got from that skinn? donate it to removeyourcontent??
GFY has sold itself out, again

[SilentKnight]

Gonzo - thanks for the earlier email...appreciate your support (and the opinions of others here on Oprano).

Seems there are quite a few longtime posters abandoning ship at this point.

Good to see so many displaying some integrity and ethics.


- S.K.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Gonzo - thanks for the earlier email...appreciate your support (and the opinions of others here on Oprano).

Seems there are quite a few longtime posters abandoning ship at this point.

Good to see so many displaying some integrity and ethics.


- S.K.

Its good to see some people vote with actions and not so much trying to win a popularity contest. Please hit me up on ICQ at your earliest chance.