Internext Horror Story - Charles Taylor / Suitcase Pimp

[gonzo]

Saturday night seems to always have a lot of parties during these shows and this one was no exception.

So during the course of the evening I sat with Toby and Paul from Heavenlycurves.com . We were admiring the "floor show" and Paul was taking some pics.

We noticed a hot "girl next door" type. She had all the right curves hidden in this TIGHT navy jumpsuit. [Toby if Paul has those pics maybe you can get him to post them].

Anyhow we decided to go out for dinner and went up fron to wait for the car.

The Enforcer brings over this same girl and we trade contact information.

Fat Fucking Tallent!

Fast forward the the next night around midnight.
I recieve a call from the same girl. It seems that the guy with her was nothing more than a suitcase pimp. Heres her story.

He had banged her out under the auspices of "an audition" where he filmed and got a clear release and id [no money for the model] and then brought her to the convention floor.

Told her to tell everyone she was his girlfriend because we are all scum.
Parades her around and then takes her to Porno Dans PJ party.

After the party --- drugs her out drives all the way to Sarasota for a shoot that was to occur on Weds. He wanted her first shoot to be pissing on someone. In the meantime he was going to have free ass until then.

The girl has enough. Tells the guy this isnt working out and asks him to take her home.
He dumps her out at the bus stop with no cash and tells her to figure it out.

The business card I have for this guy is for
Adult Tallent management
Charles taylor
www.top-shelf-talent.com
561 352 1553

Back of the card says... "Get Paid Big $$$ Today! No Experience Necessary!"

Any models that happen to find this post I would be wary of working with this guy. I plan to follow up with the girl so far she isnt answering her cell phone to see if she made it home ok.

Charles if you find this post your welcome to make a rebuttal. However several of us observed your actions and the girl didnt ask me for a dime. So Id tend to believe her side of the story over yours.

[spazlabz]

top shelf talent huh?
but munching scum sucking fucker... if of course all this is accurate.. piece of shit jerk wad

so gonzo.. did ya tap dat ass too? LOL



spaz

[spazlabz]

NICE SITE!!
"Look maw, I can type html!!"


spaz

[spazlabz]

this thread is useless without {tight navy blue dress} pics!


spaz

[TheEnforcer]

She was a very nice girl and I hope she was able to get home all right.

[Toby]

Always some scum bag taking advantage.

I sent Paul an ICQ. I'm not sure if he got any shots of her.

[Footman]

That just sucks. It fulfills a very bad stereotype and this dude will get his someday. What goes around comes around... always.

[Mike AI]

Thread is worthless without photos!

[spazlabz]

Originally Posted by Mike AI

Thread is worthless without photos!

yeah... what i said

but still no pics




spaz

[Hammer]

Interesting story and I'm looking forward to the rebuttal.

[Charles Taylor]

First and foremost I would like to thank everyone out here to address these issues.

Gonzo….good stuff….like your work. But every story has two sides to it right? So since you actually weren’t there to see everything that took place I will fill in the gaps for you in my rebuttal. Naturally since we do live in a country where you are presumed innocent until proven guilty I am glad that you are here to prejudge this entire ordeal.

I won’t be lying here either since “everyone” knows my MO and I have a truly “bad” reputation to maintain. Ask any of the producers that get talent from me I am known far and wide as a complete asshole….why would I let the legend die now?

Among other things I find talent for various companies throughout Florida and can provide references as for such. The models have to be realistic in respect to the time frame and amount of money that they will make. So let’s say a girl comes to you and asks you for a job that she has no prior experience doing, is not currently tested and has unattainable expectations about the industry in general to begin with. I just don’t waive my magic wand and instaneously jobs come pouring in that the models are interested in doing. You have to take the good ones along with the bad ones as well and examine the pros and cons accordingly.

Brief synopsis: Let’s see I met her she is currently living in as she called it the “ghetto” and her car died while she was in transit to her new abode. So she lacking on the transportation and housing fronts. She went on to say that she had tried to work with other “agencies” in South Florida but were unimpressed since they all wanted sex from her upfront. I never told her she had to sleep with me to get any job but she assumed that it was the case. She actually invited me to have sex with her. If you don’t believe me I can show you the video. I shot the other necessary content and proceeded along with my job to promote her. Took her to the Internext had her meet and greet with you all you nice folks. Took her to porno dans party and a South Florida producer (to remain nameless, why don’t you ask her about this one as well.) wanted her to give him head in the bathroom. That didn’t pan out too well either so we went back to the diplomat. Took her inebriated ass over to the Tampa area for some shoots that I had pre booked for her the next day. One of those shoots cancelled because they didn’t get approval for “her” look. She has got some interestingly placed tattoos and that was the reason for their cancellation. Then I booked her for another shoot and by that time she had totally changed her mind and wanted to go back to South Florida.

Points that I really wish to address are:
1) - I gave her drugs….No sorry believe her on that one. However she told me that she was kicked out of the navy for testing positive for cocaine so believe who you will.
2) - I left her stranded….I took her to a Greyhound bus stop after she told me she wanted to leave. I don’t run a taxi or shuttle service and after I gave $$$ to the girl the night before at the diplomat and at the PJ party for drinks and food (since she claimed she was broke) and then she changes her mind midstream her transportation issues are not my problem. I told her that I would bring her back upon completion of her shoots. If she had stayed till Wednesday and all of the shoots I booked with her had fell though I would be obligated to drive her home, as I have done with many other models before her. Now you should ask her if she had every told me that she “owed” me some money and that I could take it out of her future shoots.

I am also MALE TALENT for several websites and also have adult video credits as well. Sorry to inform you of that but that’s the bottom line. So you’re right I am “Fat Fucking Tallent!” indeed.

Yes I do meet with the female talent before I book them for any shoots and unless female talent has substantial verifiable credits I offer two types of plans for them to choose from-

a) Content
Or
b) Collateral

If you wish for me to elaborate on either of those items I will in future posts. In regards to the questions of pay and travel expenses as brought up in this thread. You must work around the technicalities of each issue. First if you haven’t read any articles lately you won’t know that currently Ray Guhn is being prosecuted in Florida for among other thing shooting adult content in the state. This is related to California v. Freeman where it is legal to shoot commercial porn in the state of California and in all other states it is not applicable. As far as travel expenses go it’s a direct violation of the Mann Act. So when you’re convicted on such charges I will come to see you in prison just to say “I told you so”. So you can take what you want from those statements above but I try to operate within the guidelines of the letter of the law. Naturally I am not a lawyer so I don’t pretend to be a know it all in regards to legal matters along those lines either.


Now you don’t do your job for free and please don’t expect me to do mine that way either. Since you have never been as you call it a “suitcase pimp” you would not know or understand why I have procedures in place for talent to actually understand what their getting themselves into. So yes I do “auditions” with some of the girls at least the ones that I will be working with in the future anyway. This is due to the fact that I want to be sure that we have some chemistry together and once again that they can actually do the job. Now everyone can fuck but some people need a little extra help in the performance department. Since we are selling images and fantasy to the consumer it would only look a tad bit better if the end product really looked good. The bottom line is I have had way too many girls waste my time before like the one you mentioned here. The others before her had said that they didn’t want to fuck the male talent that they were paired up with because as she said “he wasn’t her type” and another girl before her told me after she got to the set that she was unaware that it was “nude modeling”. So now you know why I actually do the shit I do beforehand. I would love to admit that it’s just to get laid like you all have pre assumed already. But since I too already get paid to do it this job as well why am I wasting my time fucking around and not being paid for my time either. The other reason that I meet with all talent beforehand is because I have received a few interesting photos of people over the years doing this job. Some girls don’t have cameras, current pictures or just wish to embellish on their looks. I am sure that after booking a few Rosanne Bar look a likes under the guise that they had told they were supermodels over the phone you too would do a little more research and actually meet up with prospective models before throwing them out to the content shooters. Now I am waiting for all the hypocrites to chime in and call me a scum bag who are themselves doing the exact same thing or wish they could do it as well. But I don’t expect anyone to be as honest as I am in this the adult biz.

By the way thanks for all the bad press as it has worked in all the other “suit case pimps” favor and I appreciate it wholeheartedly. Since ultimately there is no such thing as bad press.


Now go ahead and FLAME away since I could really give a rat’s ass!!!

[Hammer]

Well, that reminded me of some of LC's posts. Long and redundant. However, there are always three sides to every story. Her side, your side and the truth. I can't say that I'd lean toward believing a chick that has sex for money though.

[Charles Taylor]

Originally Posted by Hammer

Well, that reminded me of some of LC's posts. Long and redundant. However, there are always three sides to every story. Her side, your side and the truth. I can't say that I'd lean toward believing a chick that has sex for money though.

Sorry but I don’t do any of the LC style shoots and she was just starting out in the biz from what she told me. I guess you are one of the guys that tend to believe the ladies at the strip club too when they tell you there only there doing this so they can put themselves through college. I unlike LC am not here to start drama. I am in this business to do just that…BUSINESS. I just didn’t start doing this yesterday and can sleep at night knowing what I do know is the truth. Not heresy started because it was a slow news day on the boards.

[Hammer]

Originally Posted by Charles Taylor

Sorry but I don’t do any of the LC style shoots and she was just starting out in the biz from what she told me. I guess you are one of the guys that tend to believe the ladies at the strip club too when they tell you there only there doing this so they can put themselves through college. I unlike LC am not here to start drama. I am in this business to do just that…BUSINESS. I just didn’t start doing this yesterday and can sleep at night knowing what I do know is the truth. Not heresy started because it was a slow news day on the boards.

I guess you should learn to read. I said that the post was similar to LC's style and nothing about shoots and I said I would tend to NOT lean toward believing the story from a chick that fucks for pay, which if you read it correctly is basically saying I tend to believe your version.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Hammer

I guess you should learn to read. I said that the post was similar to LC's style and nothing about shoots and I said I would tend to NOT lean toward believing the story from a chick that fucks for pay, which if you read it correctly is basically saying I tend to believe your version.

As I sad on xpeeps. Sure are a lot of posts from a guy that doesnt get a rats ass.

Hes already admitted he stranded her 4 hours away from home at a bus stop.

[Charles Taylor]

Originally Posted by Hammer

I guess you should learn to read. I said that the post was similar to LC's style and nothing about shoots and I said I would tend to NOT lean toward believing the story from a chick that fucks for pay, which if you read it correctly is basically saying I tend to believe your version.

Sorry Hammer....When my reading comprehension is dwindling its time for me to call it a night.....I apologize.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by Hammer

I can't say that I'd lean toward believing a chick that has sex for money though.

unfortunately, after the experiences we have had with agents, the same can be said for them also

so, having an agent fight with a model is like having a shaving program owner fight with scamming affiliate

[spazlabz]

Originally Posted by Jace

unfortunately, after the experiences we have had with agents, the same can be said for them also

so, having an agent fight with a model is like having a shaving program owner fight with scamming affiliate

2 fat guys arguing over which is better...
dunkin donuts
or krusty kreme




spaz

[spazlabz]

Mr. Taylor,
what are the facts as agreed upon by all parties?
You deep stroked talent for free as an 'audition' - ok your a macdaddy because i would assume most models wouldnt spread their valueable real estate for free

you took the girl to the con and parties on your arm

she got sick of what she perceived to be your 'shit' and wanted to go home

you dumped her at bus station without verifying that she did indeed have bus fare

does that about sum up the facts as ALL parties agree to?


spaz

{edited fair to fare because I had a brainfart}
{edited again to change brianfart to brainfart because Hammer is all up in my ass about it!!} LOL

[Jace]

Originally Posted by Charles Taylor

So let’s say a girl comes to you and asks you for a job that she has no prior experience doing, is not currently tested and has unattainable expectations about the industry in general to begin with.

after working in the adult industry since 2000, and also working deep in the porn scene in LA as talent with my wife for over 2 years, you just described every single girl that walked through the doors of every single angency/managers office