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wig 11-18-2002 07:51 AM

I am not trying to be an alarmist, but the period of November 18th - 29th carry some very dangerous cycles that could involve some surprises.

Although I believe that any events, whether they be this month or in mid-January, are only precursor events to the more dangerous cycles surrounding Sept - Oct 2003, I have learned to anticipate fundamentals when there is a large synergy of cycles.

Most would agree as to the players and the likeliness of war, and I am only speculating on the timing. With that in mind, and only in conjunction with the plethora of cycles that are aligned, the coming holiday period is one of the most vulnerable economic periods in recent history.

Almighty Colin 11-18-2002 08:03 AM

When Wig gets weird, he goes all the way.

And .. you're being an alarmist. ;-)

wig 11-18-2002 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Colin@Nov 18 2002, 08:11 AM
When Wig gets weird, he goes all the way.

And .. you're being an alarmist. ;-)

Colin, back in 2000 I told a few people that Sept 2001 was a huge cycle period and that I expected a MAJOR low in the Stock indexes. Look what happened.

Look what happened on my cycles periods where I also projected a low in July and again in October. All in advance and all posted right here.

It is what it is. I would be remiss if I did not at least acknowledge the possibilities / probabilities and likely corresponding fundamentals.

And... I am being a realist.

:D

-= JR =- 11-18-2002 08:41 AM

:o

Almighty Colin 11-18-2002 08:44 AM

Saddam might attack because Mars is aligned with Venus or what?

LadyMischief 11-18-2002 08:47 AM

The liklihood of an attack from Saddam I think personally is far less than the liklihood of an attack from Al Queda. Iraq is much more easily punished for any open actions than a terrorist organization that can move about at will. I doubt that Saddam, even as crazy as he is, would actually give the entire world an open invitation to come in and kick his ass. He would be writing his own death warrent, as if it wasn't already written.

-= JR =- 11-18-2002 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Colin@Nov 18 2002, 08:52 AM
Saddam might attack because Mars is aligned with Venus or what?
I vote to attack Venus to avert a dual catastrophe in the Middle East and NYSE

where is Madame Cleo when we need her?
:unsure:

Almighty Colin 11-18-2002 08:50 AM

I guarantee something will go bad in the world Nov. 18-29. Something is going terribly bad every day. Something is going on terribly bad right now. How would you verify the predictions of any such method? Sounds like Modern day Nostradamism.

Also .. Do you mean for the world or the US in particular?



Last edited by Colin at Nov 18 2002, 08:59 AM

Petr 11-18-2002 09:12 AM

there is NATO summit here in Prague Nov 21st-24th, btw

Winetalk.com 11-18-2002 09:16 AM

Colin,
the proof will be in the form of major drop of the stock market.

Wig,
am I answering it correctly for you?
;-)

Almighty Colin 11-18-2002 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Petr@Nov 18 2002, 09:20 AM
there is NATO summit here in Prague Nov 21st-24th, btw
Prague looks so beautiful in pictures. I really need to plana trip.

wig 11-18-2002 09:20 AM

Colin,

I have somewhat detailed for you in email how I approach cycles and, as you know, it has nothing to do with Mars or Venus. B)

I believe I have shown by past forecasts that my cycle work has some validity. Those who have been following closely can see this. :D

-= JR =- 11-18-2002 09:26 AM

I called John Edward of the TV show crossing over with some serious questions about our future.

here is the transcript of that conversation:

JR: Mr Edward, what can you tell us about Iraq and the stock market?

Edward: .... Hmm..... i sense something.... i sense something either good or bad..... does this mean anything to anyone?

JR: *slightly befuddled but trying to be respectful* --- "uhmm... could you elaborate?"

Edward: "its about the energy... i dont have a clear picture, just a sensation. this sensation i feel right now is either good or bad"

JR: so what does that mean exactly?

Edward: "look, i dont know how to make it any clearer"
*fat lady in audience shakes her head in disgust at my questions and apparent disbelief*

JR: I am not sure what is clear? are you predicting something will happen?

JR: ok... lets start over.. what exactly are you sensing will happen?

Edward: I am sensing big change.

JR: can you elaborate?
*fat lady in the audience throws her french fries at me and screams "your just an asshole... why dont you go home with all the other negative assholes"

Edward: you see, change will come, i know this because i can sense it. the sensation is really strong. i can also feel the definate sensation that it will be either a positive or negative change.

JR: can you describe the "change" exactly?

Edward: *chuckles, trying to show patience with my stupidity* of course! The change will be something different than before. You see JR, thats what change is.
*fat lady in the audience now laughs triumphantly at my brutal defeat*

JR: ok. what i can gather from todays conversation is that you know something will happen, but you dont know what?

Edward: Look JR, are you trying to be ignorant? i told you what. I told you it will be a good or bad change. How can it be clearer?
*several fat ladies in the audience chuckle together at me being buried in a storm of logic that only wayward, divorced housewives of talk show audiences seem to understand as i leave the stage*

wig 11-18-2002 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Nov 18 2002, 09:24 AM
Colin,
the proof will be in the form of major drop of the stock market.

Wig,
am I answering it correctly for you?
;-)

Serge,

Actually, there is some truth to this but with a small caveat. I stated in October that I felt that a low was in the making. It was during the same period when many were predicting a collapse.

I think we have just realized the first leg up from that low and that now the market is vulnerable to a "B" wave decline. This "B" wave decline will be a sharp pull-back which I believe will be followed by another rally into January.

If it unfolds like I think, this could be a very important top.

My comments regarding Saddam or Al Qaeda are based on middle east cycles. Again, I believe any near term events to be a precursor to Sept - Oct 2003 when the real fireworks are likely.

We'll see.
:)

Almighty Colin 11-18-2002 09:32 AM

Wig - you are only publishing and recalling your successes and not your failures. Selective results.

Curious though - how would you apply any such methodology to the Earth as a whole?

"the period of November 18th - 29th carry some very dangerous cycles that could involve some surprises."

How would you know if you were right or wrong? What constitutes success? Another bombing in Israel, a natural disaster, a new law passed by the evil Republicans?

wig 11-18-2002 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Colin@Nov 18 2002, 09:40 AM
Wig - you are only publishing and recalling your successes and not your failures. Selective results.


How would you know if you were right or wrong? What constitutes success? Another bombing in Israel, a natural disaster, a new law passed by the evil Republicans?

Colin,

Feel free to highlight my failures. I have never professed to know it all or to be right all the time.

I measure whether I am right or wrong in dollars in my portfolio. :D

If you and JR want to make fun of my work I'm cool with that.

Almighty Colin 11-18-2002 09:45 AM

Wig - if you want a very interested audience, try your methods on the NFL and beating point spreads.

wig 11-18-2002 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Colin@Nov 18 2002, 09:53 AM
Wig - if you want a very interested audience, try your methods on the NFL and beating point spreads.
Colin,

I am interested in making money in my investments and speculations in the markets. I do not care about football, nor have I put any time towards studying it. I have been studying and trading markets for 17 years.

The fact is, the equity markets and events in the middle east are closely related.

My post was not meant to get into a debate about the validity of cycles, astrology, football spreads or psychics. Some people may find it interesting and see the correlation and others just like to stir shit. :D

Winetalk.com 11-18-2002 09:55 AM

wig,
I am selling positions bought in October and raise cash to take advantege of any drop.

I put my money where YOUR mouth is
;_))

wig 11-18-2002 10:01 AM

Serge,

Thanks. I'll let you know when I have specific price targets for the anticipated low. :D

bpj 11-18-2002 10:12 AM

Wig,
Again, I don't know why you waste your time revealing your market & cycles calls here! For most, you could connect the dots and they STILL won't see the picture!
Fuck'em!

:awinky:

-= JR =- 11-18-2002 10:12 AM

i am not making fun of you Wig. i am just joking with myself at your expense. sorry.

everyone who predicts anything is vague and points to past successes to give those predictions credibility.

Gamblers remember the times they won... and forget the times they lost. in fact, the more they lose, the more they believe they will win. Thats why hundreds of billions flow through Vegas every year and why Trillions change hands in the stock markets.

I never met a gambler that did not believe he had a system.
I never met a gamber that won more than he lost.
:bdance:

Almighty Colin 11-18-2002 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wig@Nov 18 2002, 09:59 AM
My post was not meant to get into a debate about the validity of cycles, astrology, football spreads or psychics.
Surely you understand Oprano's cycles though.

wig 11-18-2002 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by -= JR =-@Nov 18 2002, 10:20 AM
i am not making fun of you Wig. i am just joking with myself at your expense. sorry.

everyone who predicts anything is vague and points to past successes to give those predictions credibility.

Gamblers remember the times they won... and forget the times they lost. in fact, the more they lose, the more they believe they will win. Thats why hundreds of billions flow through Vegas every year and why Trillions change hands in the stock markets.

I never met a gambler that did not believe he had a system.
I never met a gamber that won more than he lost.
:bdance:

JR,

It's all good and no need to apologize.

While there may be some vagueness regarding the middle east events to come and my post, my forecasts on markets (including both price and time) have been pretty specific.

If you have never met a gambler that makes money, you better get out more. There are many forms of gambling. For instance, do you not think Warren Buffet gambles when he decides to invest?

What about a business owner? Did you and Colin not gamble when you started pleasure labs?

Yes, trillions change hands in the stock market, but it is a zero sum game. For every buyer there is a seller. :blink:

Your explanation and conclusions of the life and times of the "gambler" leave a lot to be desired.

wig 11-18-2002 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Colin+Nov 18 2002, 10:22 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Colin @ Nov 18 2002, 10:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--wig@Nov 18 2002, 09:59 AM
My post was not meant to get into a debate about the validity of cycles, astrology, football spreads or psychics.
Surely you understand Oprano's cycles though.[/b][/quote]
Absolutely, which is why I take no offense to your inquisition. :D :D

Winetalk.com 11-18-2002 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bpj@Nov 18 2002, 10:20 AM
Wig,
Again, I don't know why you waste your time revealing your market & cycles calls here! For most, you could connect the dots and they STILL won't see the picture!
Fuck'em!

:awinky:

hey, bpj,
you are in violation of copy rights!
"fuck'em" is MINE!
;_))

wig 11-18-2002 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bpj@Nov 18 2002, 10:20 AM
Wig,
Again, I don't know why you waste your time revealing your market & cycles calls here! For most, you could connect the dots and they STILL won't see the picture!
Fuck'em!

:awinky:

BPJ,

It's all in the exposure. :rokk:

Controversial topics rule and they can't always be about politics. :yowsa:

Almighty Colin 11-18-2002 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wig+Nov 18 2002, 10:35 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (wig @ Nov 18 2002, 10:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Quote:

Originally posted by -Colin@Nov 18 2002, 10:22 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--wig
Quote:

@Nov 18 2002, 09:59 AM
My post was not meant to get into a debate about the validity of cycles, astrology, football spreads or psychics.


Surely you understand Oprano's cycles though.

Absolutely, which is why I take no offense to your inquisition. :D :D[/b][/quote]
I wouldn't have even considered the possibility that you'd be offended. You're WIG!

bpj - people connect dots in the sky too. I'm an Ophiuchus, how about you?

wig 11-18-2002 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Colin@Nov 18 2002, 10:41 AM
I wouldn't have even considered the possibility that you'd be offended. You're WIG!


Okay.... Thanks for the confirmation. :blink:

Almighty Colin 11-18-2002 10:43 AM

"Inquisition". Interesting choice of words.

-= JR =- 11-18-2002 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wig@Nov 18 2002, 10:33 AM
Your explanation and conclusions of the life and times of the "gambler" leave a lot to be desired.
ok :P
will you reveal the "secret formula" ?
or is this a personal thing between you and Saddam?
:blink:

Almighty Colin 11-18-2002 10:49 AM

Again though Wig, I think you are ignoring the fundamental question and it should be simple to answer. How will we know whether you are correct or incorrect about November 18th - 29th? What constitutes success and failure? I mean - considering the number of problems in the Middle East normally, there aren't that many thing worthy enough of fulfilling predictions. A suicide bombing in Israel is just par for the course. So is blowing away another Iraqi radar installation.

wig 11-18-2002 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Colin@Nov 18 2002, 10:51 AM
"Inquisition". Interesting choice of words.
Not sure what you are trying to imply.

"Curious though - how would you apply any such methodology to the Earth as a whole?

"the period of November 18th - 29th carry some very dangerous cycles that could involve some surprises."

How would you know if you were right or wrong? What constitutes success? Another bombing in Israel, a natural disaster, a new law passed by the evil Republicans?"

Inquisition - The act of inquiring into a matter.

Personally, I thought Ophiuchus was a much more interesting choice.
:D

Almighty Colin 11-18-2002 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by -= JR =-@Nov 18 2002, 10:56 AM
will you reveal the "secret formula" ?

Yes, "Inquiring Minds" want to know.

wig 11-18-2002 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by -= JR =-+Nov 18 2002, 10:56 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (-= JR =- @ Nov 18 2002, 10:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--wig@Nov 18 2002, 10:33 AM
Your explanation and conclusions of the life and times of the "gambler" leave a lot to be desired.
ok :P
will you reveal the "secret formula" ?
or is this a personal thing between you and Saddam?
:blink:[/b][/quote]
There is no secret formula. Sorry.

However, if you are truly interested, perhaps Colin will forward you our emails where I discuss some of my methodologies.

Almighty Colin 11-18-2002 10:53 AM

Wig - certain historical undertones come to mind when one says "Inquisition".

wig 11-18-2002 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Colin@Nov 18 2002, 10:57 AM
Again though Wig, I think you are ignoring the fundamental question and it should be simple to answer. How will we know whether you are correct or incorrect about November 18th - 29th? What constitutes success and failure? I mean - considering the number of problems in the Middle East normally, there aren't that many thing worthy enough of fulfilling predictions. A suicide bombing in Israel is just par for the course. So is blowing away another Iraqi radar installation.
Colin, what I would term as a surprise would be Saddam lobbing a few missiles at Israel or Al Qaeda pulling off another attack. It would have to stand out.

Anyway, this is secondary to market action where I am concentrating my efforts to be correct as much as possible. :D

Almighty Colin 11-18-2002 11:09 AM

Yes, I would consider that a surprise too but you're EXPECTING it.

ulfie 11-18-2002 11:09 AM

The proof of whether wig is correct or not will be plainly visible based on what the markets do. What or who the event involves isn't the important part when looking at markets from a technical analysis point of view. I don't think wig is Nostradomaus he's just very good at identifying market cycles. Then again, maybe he is Nostradomaus...

Winetalk.com 11-18-2002 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ulfie@Nov 18 2002, 11:17 AM
The proof of whether wig is correct or not will be plainly visible based on what the markets do. What or who the event involves isn't the important part when looking at markets from a technical analysis point of view. I don't think wig is Nostradomaus he's just very good at identifying market cycles. Then again, maybe he is Nostradomaus...
I wouldn't have a problem with Nostardamus ...
he can't do any worse than my broker
;-)))


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