Fuck the economist. What would a psychologist say? Most people who go from rags to riches find that the lump sum just gives them a way to SPEND more money up front. They can't afford that kind of leverage. [/b][/quote]
Colin, which one would you take ?

LOL! That's already been established that that's the way to do it.

Ok, let's put it the other way, then. If you're a sponsor, which payout model is most advantageous to you the owner (assuming you can only choose one): a revshare or PPS? Why? Exactly. Now flip the tables to the affiliate side and you have your answer.

How many affiliates can sponsor convention parties at $50K a clip several times a year?

>> which payout model is most advantageous to you the owner

PPS, they'll get more traffic, more volume and the 5% of affiliates you mentioned in another thread will only deal with PPS.

Let me ask you this. Does a sponsor want a BIG piece of a little pie, or a small piece of a BIG pie ???

>> How many affiliates can sponsor convention parties at $50K a clip several times a year?

Are you trying to confirm my point that revshare affiliates are broke ass mofos ?? i agree with you :okthumb:

Colin, which one would you take ? [/b][/quote]
I'll take it now. The government might be broke later. ;-)

Yes that is correct. Keep in mind though that other options add about $5 to the average per CC sign-up.

Those are the real numbers, not snipe promo for a program I am running because I am unemployed now and have nothing to promote ;-)

our ratio at netpondcash
1:169 uniques
= 1:203 raw

this is on montly memberships, no trials [/b][/quote]
thats

www.netpondcash.com

LOLOL:)

Slav

We got a dogging site coming up in the near future, get readdy for it cos that site is going to be the best converting of all in our portfolio

Thanks for the kinds words TE

Have been very honest in this thread, basically due to the fact the readers of Oprano are intelligent and know what the deal is

Anyone can open a PPS program anytime, just charge $29.95 per month with no trial and pay $25 per join

At this time I feel more can be earned with a trial membership and good conversions but I've been wrong before [/b][/quote]
Nope not anyone can.

Cause even then , you need cash.

PPS affiliates do not have the patience to wait for their money that people dealing with a porcessor have.

;-))

Was closer to 80k.

Thanks for the kinds words TE

Have been very honest in this thread, basically due to the fact the readers of Oprano are intelligent and know what the deal is

Anyone can open a PPS program anytime, just charge $29.95 per month with no trial and pay $25 per join

At this time I feel more can be earned with a trial membership and good conversions but I've been wrong before

For christ sake, then you need to hire people that know not to complain if they don't have a lot to do. :P [/b][/quote]
Oh trust me , I did.


;-)))

For christ sake, then you need to hire people that know not to complain if they don't have a lot to do. :P

Fuck the economist. What would a psychologist say? Most people who go from rags to riches find that the lump sum just gives them a way to SPEND more money up front. They can't afford that kind of leverage. [/b][/quote]
Not the economists fault the majority of people are idiots.

Nope not anyone can.

Cause even then , you need cash.

PPS affiliates do not have the patience to wait for their money that people dealing with a porcessor have.

;-)) [/b][/quote]
Nick - we are having a lot of good business discussions but I'm not going to get into the how to do it here

But it can be done very easily :awinky:

Nick - we are having a lot of good business discussions but I'm not going to get into the how to do it here

But it can be done very easily :awinky: [/b][/quote]
Vick for a sec I thought you were going to say who needs affiliates anyway? Just work SE traffic and TGP owners.....

Another thing to consider is to outright hire your best tier 2 webhamsters to work for you exclusively

or teach someone ground up and make them a good webhamster

Another thing to consider is to outright hire your best tier 2 webhamsters to work for you exclusively

or teach someone ground up and make them a good webhamster [/b][/quote]
That works very very well.

"Nicks Law of Web Feudalism"

"First you find a "Steve. Then you get Steve to find his own Steve"

Webfeudalism works great

.Let people use your resources , ie hosting , money , mail lists , contacts , availability of a programmer 24/7 etc and get them to pay you a vig.

Please contact me , if interested. Seriously.

(I'm serious about writing a book of web theory and teaching btw,,)

;-)))



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Please contact me , if interested in partnering up on this. Seriously.

:)

Anyone wanna

Not the economists fault the majority of people are idiots. [/b][/quote]
Not the economist's fault. The economist just needs to consider whom the winner is before answering. One should consider one's particular weaknesses when making such decisions.

If you have a drinking problem and are trying to quit, it's not a good idea to hang out in bars.

The following guy should take the payments. He didn't.

NEW YORK — With just 78 cents in his savings account and $44,000 owed to creditors, parking attendant Juan Rodriguez plunked down $1 on a lottery ticket. Good thing he wasn't pinching pennies: He won a $149 million lottery jackpot.

Rodriguez, 49, of Queens, bought his Mega Millions lottery ticket about one month after filing for bankruptcy.

He stepped forward over the weekend to claim his prize, proving to be a man of many dollars but few words. At a news conference, he wore dark glasses and said he was "excited." Asked what he planned to do with his millions, he said, "I have no idea."

According to court papers, Rodriguez had exactly 78 cents in his savings account and nothing in his checking account. He owed $19,486 on one credit card and $10,070 on another. And he owed the Internal Revenue Service $2,279.

Rodriguez bought his ticket in the middle of a double shift at his $28,000-a-year job as a parking garage attendant. He immigrated to the United States from Colombia in 1982.

There was one clue that Rodriguez wanted his cash fast: He opted for a lump-sum payment of $88.5 million instead of 26 annual installments.

Not the economist's fault. The economist just needs to consider whom the winner is before answering. One should consider one's particular weaknesses when making such decisions.

If you have a drinking problem and are trying to quit, it's not a good idea to hang out in bars.

The following guy should take the payments. He didn't.

NEW YORK — With just 78 cents in his savings account and $44,000 owed to creditors, parking attendant Juan Rodriguez plunked down $1 on a lottery ticket. Good thing he wasn't pinching pennies: He won a $149 million lottery jackpot.

Rodriguez, 49, of Queens, bought his Mega Millions lottery ticket about one month after filing for bankruptcy.

He stepped forward over the weekend to claim his prize, proving to be a man of many dollars but few words. At a news conference, he wore dark glasses and said he was "excited." Asked what he planned to do with his millions, he said, "I have no idea."

According to court papers, Rodriguez had exactly 78 cents in his savings account and nothing in his checking account. He owed $19,486 on one credit card and $10,070 on another. And he owed the Internal Revenue Service $2,279.

Rodriguez bought his ticket in the middle of a double shift at his $28,000-a-year job as a parking garage attendant. He immigrated to the United States from Colombia in 1982.

There was one clue that Rodriguez wanted his cash fast: He opted for a lump-sum payment of $88.5 million instead of 26 annual installments. [/b][/quote]
Not necessarily the case though likely. He may start to be smart about money now. I agree that the up front option isn't the best for everyone. If you can't manage money the recurring option probably is best. As stated before I think every webmaster should have recurring programs as a part of their stable of sites they send to as well. All I'm saying is from a pure economic standpoint the money up front is a better option.

I say he's doomed. The best predictor of future behavior is previous behavior.

How are you counting those hits meat? First page raw? Second page unique? Third page of the members area?

Nothing personal, but I wish I could remember Serge's comparison he made years ago, involving the death rate in Europe from 1914-1918 (I think it was) and some cucumbers.

Hits are counted before they even hit the first sales page :) Raw and unique hits are counted.. the difference between raw and unique hits is 19%

Look at http://cheaters.uncovered.com and you will see why we convert :) [/b][/quote]
Seriously IMHO that is one , if not THE best , site I have seen in ages.


:wnw:

How are you counting those hits meat? First page raw? Second page unique? Third page of the members area?

Nothing personal, but I wish I could remember Serge's comparison he made years ago, involving the death rate in Europe from 1914-1918 (I think it was) and some cucumbers. [/b][/quote]
Hits are counted before they even hit the first sales page :) Raw and unique hits are counted.. the difference between raw and unique hits is 19%

Look at http://cheaters.uncovered.com and you will see why we convert :)

Seriously IMHO that is one , if not THE best , site I have seen in ages.


:wnw: [/b][/quote]
yup, almost joined that site myself...

LOL.. I`ll set you both up with members access in the morning ;)

nice
I actually signed up for netpondcash, but now I have to actually start sending some traffic...

sweeeeeet :)

Now thats what u buy a pornmaster for Chrismas that has it all
a free password :okthumb:

Now thats what u buy a pornmaster for Chrismas that has it all
a free password :okthumb: [/b][/quote]
yup
because no matter how long you've been in this business and how much you've seen, sometimes, someone finds your niche ;-)

This was a hilarious thread. It's nice to see honesty among business associates.

Now thats what u buy a pornmaster for Chrismas that has it all
a free password :okthumb: [/b][/quote]
Self nominated :pearl: => You can never have enough porn! ;-)

great site guys.... :okthumb:

Check yours!!


I , Nickatilynx , wish to signup for

http://www.netpondcash.com

:)

Funny how times change...


;-)))

Gonna check it out tonight :)

Hey guys.. check your PM`s.. I set you up :)

Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Meat, Aga.

I suggest raising payouts to $70 per join and implementing a 45% shave effective IMMEDIATELY.

Just so Nick feels comfortable about sending you traffic.

:yowsa:

Actually Nick, send me traffic like the good old days and I'll eat every word I have EVER written on the subject and find someone to set up 623 shaving mechanisms right away !!

I could even go one step further and develop a shaving algorithm just for you....

Let's see ......

Your Actual Join value.......

minus....

Cost of ScottPB Mansion in Bali...

less....

Value of Serge's wine collection and stock portfolio

equals....

Your payout figure.

I'd even name the equation.........

....
.


....
.

Let's call it "1998".

:agrin: :P

good work guys!!

Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Meat, Aga.

I suggest raising payouts to $70 per join and implementing a 45% shave effective IMMEDIATELY.

Just so Nick feels comfortable about sending you traffic.

:yowsa:

Actually Nick, send me traffic like the good old days and I'll eat every word I have EVER written on the subject and find someone to set up 623 shaving mechanisms right away !!

I could even go one step further and develop a shaving algorithm just for you....

Let's see ......

Your Actual Join value.......

minus....

Cost of ScottPB Mansion in Bali...

less....

Value of Serge's wine collection and stock portfolio

equals....

Your payout figure.

I'd even name the equation.........

....
.


....
.

Let's call it "1998".

:agrin: :P [/b][/quote]
The wood work on Scotts mansion is incredible CTB. ;-)))

Therefore the shave would be just right.

Bumped this for BillPMB.

Oh and as far as Meat and Aga's thing.

http://www.netpondcash.com

I refreshed some dormant domains to it , and would you believe got a couple of signups.

It also gave me another wake up call. (New Thread)

FUCK!!! Found money , luvely jubbly :)

;-)))