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Old 12-13-2005   #1
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A BONAFIDE FUCKING IDIOT to bring up on any webmaster board as a means to make money.
I think this should be in the posting rules!
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I think this should be in the posting rules!
I tried to add the rule, but I've got a gremlin
It should have ended:

ONLY A FUCKING BONAFIED IDIOT WOULD BRING UP ON AN ADULT WEBMASTERBOARD!!
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And if everyone hadn't quoted the post and repeated the two letters (the eleventh letter of the alphabet and the 16th letter of the alphabet) I could have cleaned it off....
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It should have ended:

ONLY A FUCKING BONAFIED IDIOT WOULD BRING UP ON AN ADULT WEBMASTERBOARD!!


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Goddamn, didn't you quit over this huff already?

Gotta get the last word in, eh?

In anyway did he suggest anyone sell KP?

Just like a little kid who has to have the last word in.

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Mkay, you got me there.. I don't see an individual being branded by lack of morals though.
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Ok, there is a disconnect somewhere here.

For me, my morality is formed completely on what Nick is calling decency. To me, they are one and the same and that is where confusion lies for me.

No one has accused anyone of fucking anything, sheez.

I used it as an example of something that none of us would touch.
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Ok, there is a disconnect somewhere here.

For me, my morality is formed completely on what Nick is calling decency. To me, they are one and the same and that is where confusion lies for me.

No one has accused anyone of fucking anything, sheez.

I used it as an example of something that none of us would touch.
Why would there be two words in the English language that mean exactly the same?

You learn that no two have the EXACT same meaning with the private education you seem so bothered by...
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I'm seriously spun up here.
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SO you would bring up a heionous thing as to make your point, which btw, is used to bolster your definition of morality?

Are you on crack?

I've said some fucked up things on drugs, shit the things Nick and me came up with no one would believe. was never any of them.

Nice to know that you think so low of Nick, that he would even cater to such a sceanario.
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Nice to know that you think so low of Nick would even cater to such a sceanario.
I think I've already answered that.

No I don't think he would let the guy finish the question.
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Not meaning to butt in here, but Nick stated on page one of this thread that he was a "decent" man and with being "indecent" I would have taken it as FACT that he nor any other "decent" person would follow those lines!


Wrong analogy, wrong time, wrong place - period!
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SO you would bring up a heionous thing as to make your point, which btw, is used to bolster your definition of morality?

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Sadder actually , mate...

Its bolster how "clever" he appears to be to the reaership.

Being clever is nice , its fun being witty and a smart ass , on the whole though nothing beats having productive traffic.

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Sadder actually , mate...

Its bolster how "clever" he appears to be to the reaership.

Being clever is nice , its fun being witty and a smart ass , on the whole though nothing beats having productive traffic.

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I'd rather be rich than witty. It's why I am so jealous of you. I'm working on the rich part.

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Its bolster how "clever" he appears to be to the reaership.
I wasn't trying to be clever.

I have made many decisions in my life based on my morals. I do not know how much gold I missed, if any, and don't really care.

If something makes me morally uncomfortable. I don't do it. That doesn't make me a failure or mean that I am using morality as an excuse for failure.

And that is what I was trying to point out.

Unfortunately, in this biz, (as you say pornographers with morals) somethings have to be into the extreme to get to a point where NONE of us would do it.
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I do not know how much gold I missed, if any, and don't really care.
LOL... A blatant lie.

It took you time to type "I don't really care" , that means you in fact do care or you wouldn't have taken the time to type it....

I'm actually more interested now in why you hold my private education against me?

That was your opening salvo....
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I'm actually more interested now in why you hold my private education against me?
I don't. I hold Buff's private education against him.
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LOL... A blatant lie.

It took you time to type "I don't really care" , that means you in fact do care or you wouldn't have taken the time to type it....

I'm actually more interested now in why you hold my private education against me?

That was your opening salvo....

No, it mean's I don't care. I waste no time on what might have been when it comes to something I passed based on a moral choice.

I do spend time examining that which got passed me that I would have no problem with.
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I have a question. Is a person a failure because they've made some bad choices in business, but they're working their way up to being a success?


I have no excuses, just mistakes I've made along the way that prevented me from reaching my goals sooner then I'd like and I'm not ashamed to admit it. I don't regret the mistakes because I've learned from them. One of the things I've learned is to NEVER, EVER, rely on someone else to provide an income for you. If you HAVE to work for someone in this industry you better also work on shit for yourself because there's no telling when person "X" is going to say they no longer need you. When that happens you're fucked...
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First of all, sorry if I bothered any body. If anybody thought in my hypothetical question that I was implying anything bad about anyone. Sorry bout that.

But, in defense here to the rest of the bullshit. I have done several searches across the board and I at least in my hypothetical question used the abbreviation (which means the same as Kitchen Police in the military for anyone lost).

The actual term(s) associated with it have been all over this board. In thread titles, in conversation. So, to tell me that only a bonafide idiot brings it up, to tell me, as I was in an icq, that it has never been mentioned on Oprano is a total crock of bullshit.

Your fucking gangland tactics of 3 or 4 on one might work on some folks but with me all you get is a big FUCK OFF.

If the subject makes you all so fucking indignant how come it hasn't been an issue the other times the terms have appeared on the board.

You can all go fucking die.

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Your fucking gangland tactics of 3 or 4 on one might work on some folks but with me all you get is a big FUCK OFF.
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You started the shit with the "You gonna do it? Or are you a failure?", which was a personal attack, not speculation. It's not gangland tactics either, its common fucking sense and you obviously still don't see the difference.
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You started the shit with the "You gonna do it? Or are you a failure?", which was a personal attack, not speculation. It's not gangland tactics either, its common fucking sense and you obviously still don't see the difference.
No. I did not. I posed a hypothetical question against his quoted morals being just an excuse for failure. Period.

i did not dare him. His quote indicates that if you didn't succeed because your morals got in your way then you are a failure and I was calling bullshit on it.

turning it into the rest of the shit was gangland 3 on 1 henchmen tactics and you know it Newton.
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No. I did not. I posed a hypothetical question against his quoted morals being just an excuse for failure. Period.

i did not dare him. His quote indicates that if you didn't succeed because your morals got in your way then you are a failure and I was calling bullshit on it.

turning it into the rest of the shit was gangland 3 on 1 henchmen tactics and you know it Newton.
Umm it was pointed out to me by Anthony...I pissed with you a bit the finished with a smile lol...then went to my daughters end of term concert and came back to you losing it dude?

Yeah it has been mentioned on the board..I said it hadn't been that was to emphasise my point. LOL

WTF! Are you drunk or just off it lol
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I still say that the distinction between morality and decency, at least in practical as opposed to academic terms, is the distinction between the left and right sides of the same hair.
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Well, if he was drunk, tomorrow is another day.

Can't say in the past we didn't post stupid shit and regretted it in the morning.
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Naughty henchmen!!
Bad henchman!!!

ahahahahahahahahahahah

Oh fuck!!!

Now PD and osiris and sarettah has ganged up against me...gangland tactics lol.......

Jesus Christ.
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Naughty henchmen!!
Bad henchman!!!

ahahahahahahahahahahah

Oh fuck!!!

Now PD and osiris and sarettah has ganged up against me...gangland tactics lol.......

Jesus Christ.
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nice thread.

The more money I make, the more I realize that everybody making money is fucking somebody somewhere somehow.

When I make a dollar, I take it from somebody else, it didn't appear out of thin air.

Do any of us really have anything all that original, of value and terribly unique to offer?
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nice thread.

The more money I make, the more I realize that everybody making money is fucking somebody somewhere somehow.

When I make a dollar, I take it from somebody else, it didn't appear out of thin air.

Do any of us really have anything all that original, of value and terribly unique to offer?
I always knew you stuck around and read the threads.

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I always knew you stuck around and read the threads.

Are you gonna be in Vegas?
You caught me, I check in once a day to read interesting threads.

I probably won't make vegas. I don't seem to get much out of shows these days except a hangover. Probably says more about my liver than the shows though, i'm sure they are still good.
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nice thread.

The more money I make, the more I realize that everybody making money is fucking somebody somewhere somehow.

When I make a dollar, I take it from somebody else, it didn't appear out of thin air.

Do any of us really have anything all that original, of value and terribly unique to offer?
In a nutshell I'd agree....

and yup , we are all doing the same old things........

Depressing really isn't it?
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There's more than one way to skin a penguin.
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Nick, I gave the thumbs up just because I can respect his attitude. I am not taking any sides here because it isn't my arguement. Don't think I'd be afraid to though..
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Hey, I'm not ganging up on anybody.

It is the responsibility of the Emperor's ministers to praise his new garments when he shows up in court naked.

The only thing I find suprising is that anyone who's been around the board for a while would be suprised at that.
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Henchman jumpin in.

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Shut up PornDoggy.

Hey, I was just admiring how efficiently the board works ...
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Wow this thread took an interesting turn.

I'm going to jump back to the statement I made (I think it was in another thread though) about how I would do anything to facilitate my progress through life. Nick jumped on the "anything?" and my emphasis was on the "to facilitate" --For me it goes for if it'll facilitate me short term great, if it'll facilitate me short term & seriously hinder me long term, not great at all. If it won't facilitate my progress short term but will make things easier in the long run, great, if it won't do either, not great. As far as the issue that came up in this thread, that's touching on a whole new ballgame, as an adult I wouldn't be able to do it, it wouldn't facilitate me either in short term or long term, sure it might make me $ in that theoretical fantasy scenario but the effects it would have on me as an individual would far outweigh any dollar value. There's a reason my current goal is to be a Child Advocate lawyer, its to fight against stuff like that. I have a very low tolerance for many, many, many adults out there but the kids are still worth fighting for.

Anyways, I'm being anti-social at my hostess's parents house so have to go, will respond more later...

Good thread, and I love the way this board works. No matter what "side" or angle a person may take, it definitely keeps things interesting. I'm learning a lot, both from reading posts, and reading responses, and just in general...
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Hooper - Hell of a way of simplifying things.. Good post, I would give you some points if I knew how to... Being a failure and all though.. no idea how to


I have taken alot away from this thread even when it spun into a different directions there were posts here and there that made me do some serious thinking about my situation - and how I should change it, along with to what degree...

Pry just a manic moment but I feel good about myself for the first time in a while... And Nick, starting over again on the drinking thing... I didn't want help this time, I wanted to get fucked up and forget about things for 3 or 4 days. As usual it didn't help ... and never will, hopefully that sinks in eventually *for real* one of these days

This thread went of in a scary direction, I don't think Sarettah was implying anyone was doing . You guys then reacted Much like the way I reacted to not believing people should be able to write about in a thread a while back. I got my ass jumped over that - and even though I didn't agree .. I respected other people's beliefs and understood they were protected under the constitution to write about if they so chose to... as sick as it made me.

I wasn't even accused of it ... and went off it is such a touchy subject - so I understand the reactions... But really guys I don't think Sarettah meant anything else except to put out a situation showing there ARE lines people won't cross when it comes to 'cut throat do whatever it takes to make money in business'

The fact that it was that was the subject used caused a stir and upset alot of people... It's natural... But the real question I ahve for you guys, especially you Anthony cause you got REAL pissed.. Is why didn't any of you state how strongly you were against in writing ? Just because it's considered legal under our constitution?

I am NOT trying to throw a stone, I live in a glass house as it is... Just trying to keep the peace
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No, no, no, no, no, Trev - get with the program.

Morals are for pussies and rich people who can afford them.

It's about decency.
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No, no, no, no, no, Trev - get with the program.

Morals are for pussies and rich people who can afford them.

It's about decency.
Ah well, if you put it like that then I don't want any.
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Goddamn whole place is gonna fall apart if I leave!

Just you wait!

Goddamnit, I'm important!
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Goddamn whole place is gonna fall apart if I leave!

Just you wait!

Goddamnit, I'm important!
Don't worry about it. you aren't that important.......
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Old 12-14-2005   #45
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Don't worry about it. you aren't that important.......
I was quoting you and your whining, old man.

Funny enough, you came up with your own answer.

Without this board you are nothing.

This board means nothing to me.

See the difference?

Sad isn't it.
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I was quoting you and your whining, old man.

And where did I say anything about leaving? Or how important I am?

Once again you try to make whatever you read mean whatever the fuck you want.
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And where did I say anything about leaving? Or how important I am?

Once again you try to make whatever you read mean whatever the fuck you want.
It's a gift.
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I was quoting you and your whining, old man.

Funny enough, you came up with your own answer.

Without this board you are nothing.

This board means nothing to me.

See the difference?

Sad isn't it.

Nice edit in there.

I like the board but as far as being nothing...lololol....

I have more of the important stuff in my life then you will have for a long long time. I have a beautiful wife, I have wonderful kids, and I have loyal friends.

What do you got except a whole lot of cash, a bunch of guns and watches and whichever partner/employer/whatever you've hooked yourself up with this month.
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Nice edit in there.

I like the board but as far as being nothing...lololol....

I have more of the important stuff in my life then you will have for a long long time. I have a beautiful wife, I have wonderful kids, and I have loyal friends.

What do you got except a whole lot of cash, a bunch of guns and watches and whichever partner/employer/whatever you've hooked yourself up with this month.
Edit? No addition. I hit the enter button before putting in the rest.

OH NO! HERE WE GO AGAIN, HOW IMPORTANT YOU ARE!!!

You don't know me you old fuck. The earliest memory I have you is being a backstabbing cunt, sending my personal emails to other people, WHILE YOU WERE WORKING FOR ME.

But hey, I get the job done, which can't be said the same for you.
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The fucked thing is Ryan fell of the wagon
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