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bonds move 2% up, rates dropped this morning,
Bill Gross (the biggest bond player) bought 24 billions worth of bonds 2 weeks before fed raised short term rates (the same time wig did, BTW) contrary to your prediction...
WHY heavy hitters don't follow your predictions and make money?
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Originally posted by wig@Jul 2 2004, 08:11 AM hehe I'm just a squirrel trying to get a nut like everyone else.
I am short the S&P now. Still think there is one more rally into year-end before it all falls apart.
After that, the next 5 years are going to be ugly for equities. IMHO
Wig I am not sure you have ever been right.
The economy is strong - could you imagine where we would be if we were not fighting a major war and there were no threats to oil or from terrorism?
Unless something major happens from a terror attack or to the flow of oil, 2004 will continue to roll INTO 2005 - after that, I am not sure. Depends on who is President and what economic policies they try to install.
Serge, markets had short term rate hikes already built in. Infact if we do not have .25 point raise on a regular basis the markets will be dissappointed.
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The economy is strong - could you imagine where we would be if we were not fighting a major war and there were no threats to oil or from terrorism?
Unless something major happens from a terror attack or to the flow of oil, 2004 will continue to roll INTO 2005 - after that, I am not sure. Depends on who is President and what economic policies they try to install.
Serge, markets had short term rate hikes already built in. Infact if we do not have .25 point raise on a regular basis the markets will be dissappointed.
Mike,
wig is over mil in trading gains right,
but of course, it's your God's given right to argue with numbers.
as for your read of economy,
your read is meaningless if you can't make money of your read and wig CAN,
which again is your right to argue about who is right and who is wrong.
As for what markets expect and what will disapoint them,
you are living in YESTERDAY,
today's employment numbers completely destroyed your reality and markets no longer expect what you expect, you are now behind the curve
which once again is your God's given right to argue with me
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Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Jul 2 2004, 10:37 AM-->
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Sorry I do not have access to Wig's trading account, so I am ignorant to the millions he has booked so far this year.
I read the news this morning, I have seen the reports - but I have also seen a lot of other things the previous few months that are huge possitives.
I beleive that the stock market is built on momentum and many times on perception. But alas, I have not booked a million in the market this year, so I will just stick to speaking what I do know about - SPENDING!
I don't have access to his acount either, but numbers were always my strong point and I just follow his buys and sells since 2002 when he urged me to buy gold at 320
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as for spending,
as a matter of fact we are looking for spending consultant
(neither me nor my wife were trained by our parents in that department)
if you become available any time soon,
you have yourself a standing job offer
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Originally posted by Serge_Oprano+Jul 2 2004, 10:44 AM-->
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Originally posted by Buff@Jul 2 2004, 01:16 PM 10 Y TSY YLD NDX (WCB:^TNX) Quote data by Reuters
Index Value: 44.58
Trade Time: 1:09PM ET
Change: Down 1.06 (2.32%)
Prev Close: 45.64
Open: 45.79
Day's Range: 44.10 - 45.80
Buff, you are quoting YIELD which is reversive from the BOND PRICE....
oh my, bad, bad me, I pick up on somebody who doesn't have a clue what the difference/relation between them!
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Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Jul 2 2004, 10:37 AM
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Serge if you would have listened to jr. you would be rocking in REITS. Up 60% and collecting dividends around 5.5%
I still think MVL is going to pop more, Spiderman mania is just starting.
I only have 5k in shares, profit taking even when stock pops 5% is just not worth it with this small amount. <_<
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Originally posted by Mike AI@Jul 2 2004, 01:30 PM Serge if you would have listened to jr. you would be rocking in REITS. Up 60% and collecting dividends around 5.5%
I still think MVL is going to pop more, Spiderman mania is just starting.
I only have 5k in shares, profit taking even when stock pops 5% is just not worth it with this small amount. <_<
Mike,
"rocking" is relative....
what is the difference between X you can't spend in a lifetime vs X+Y you can't spend in a lifetime?
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{small print} jr sold MAC and now MAC is above jr's sale price{/small print}
daddy was buying ETF';s all the way to their bottoms and now sitts on
1) cap gains
2) divs collected and buys CD's off those profits
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For those intersted in my consumption, I just spent some money.
It cost me about 1/3 price of my tickets for game 7 of the Stanley Cup!
It will look good with the puck I caught from the game!
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Originally posted by Serge_Oprano@Jul 2 2004, 12:35 PM Mike,
Buff accepted my bet and please make sure he pays wig those $100 I lost to him this morning.
anybody else willing to put money that Buff is right and I am wrong?
$100 usual will do, and I am serious as a hard on.
Let me just make sure we're on the same page.
I said the price of the bonds fell (are falling) today and the yields are going up today.
You are saying the yields are dropping and the price is going up.
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