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Old 10-23-2003   #1
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This has to be the funniest thing I've seen in a while.

1st - I get a letter addressed to "Mike No-last-name" at Wyldesites, Inc.
2nd - Telling me I'm in direct infringement of their patent, etc. ,etc.
3rd - Urges me to 'take advantage' of their introductory rates!!

hahahahaha!!!!

These morons have got to be kidding right? What is the criteria for even getting one of these letters? Just because you service the adult industry means you owe them money??

I guess they never even bothered to look at what exactly it is that I do?? Oh boy ..




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you should file an extortion claim mike.

you'd likely win very quickly.

Extortion (Black's Law Dictionary - 6th Edition) is defined as:
"The obtaining of property from another induced by wrongful use of actual or threatened force, violence, or fear, or under color of official right."




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you should file an extortion claim mike.

you'd likely win very quickly.

Extortion (Black's Law Dictionary - 6th Edition) is defined as:
"The obtaining of property from another induced by wrongful use of actual or threatened force, violence, or fear, or under color of official right."
I got mine today too.

Unfortunately, it is doubtful that the revenues generated by the vast pornodoggy empire would pay for the sugar for the acacia coffee service on a monthly basis.

And, uh, there is the little factor that I have no audio and no video anywhere on anything ...
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I haven't checked my mailbox - now I'm wondering if I should. From this and some threads I've seen on GFY, it looks like they sent out another wave of packets.
Guess they're getting tired of having to post losses in their quarterly statements. Anyone else notice the timing of each swarm of packets as it relates to the release of quarterlies?
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Unfortunately, it is doubtful that the revenues generated by the vast pornodoggy empire would pay for the sugar for the acacia coffee service on a monthly basis.
PD - hahahaha! Yeah I hear you ... what they would get out of me wouldn't keep the bathroom stalls clean!

And again .. there's the issue - I dont stream anything to anyone!

Looks like they are digging further and further down the food chain if they are hitting up the little man like us!

I have but one thing to say to them ...
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...and I bet that your "noname" was given by one of the programs who settled.
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Trip to California w/Forest? Uh oh .... hehehehe
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...and I bet that your "noname" was given by one of the programs who settled.
I was thinking that too .. out of the 52 licenses they say they have issued, they referenced 6 companies by name in my letter .. and I've done work directly for 4 of them ...
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Mike I bet if you challenged them they'd try to use Flash as an excuse, when Berman still hasn't given a straight answer as to whether or not his patent covers Flash.

I think the No-Last-Name thing is priceless, though. We don't know who in the hell you are but we're gonna sue you if you don't pay our bribe money!
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Carrie, while I'm sure that they obtained my address from one of the programs that settled with them, the timing of the mailing is likely related to when they obtained the data and to the November 30th deadline for the "hassle-free" settlement. It provides them an opportunity to later say to a court, "See, we tried to be reasonable..."

I have to admit, though ... tying the mailing date to the release of quarterly statements, like speculating that there has been no hearing on this matter because a court clerk owns Acacia stock, is much more in line with the hysterical and ill-informed nature of most posts on most boards about the whole topic.
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I won't be in Atlanta to pick up my mail until next week. It will be interesting to see if I got one (I have NO video on ANY of my sites and my sites are all free) and if so, what name it's under. :P
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Not to spam other boards, but everyone receiving packets all at once is kinda important.
Alex gives a good response in this thread to some folks that got theirs today, and there are so many new threads on GFY saying they got a packet today that I just did a one-week search for 'acacia' and came up with 85 freaking results. Lots of good reading in some of those.
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Mike I bet if you challenged them they'd try to use Flash as an excuse, when Berman still hasn't given a straight answer as to whether or not his patent covers Flash.

I think the No-Last-Name thing is priceless, though. We don't know who in the hell you are but we're gonna sue you if you don't pay our bribe money!
Well if that's the case then shouldn't they be suing macromedia too? Even so, there are no flash elements on my site at all!
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I have to admit, though ... tying the mailing date to the release of quarterly statements, like speculating that there has been no hearing on this matter because a court clerk owns Acacia stock, is much more in line with the hysterical and ill-informed nature of most posts on most boards about the whole topic.
PD, the quip about the clerk was a funny. *bonks you on the head*
Packet mailings in relation to quarterlies isn't, though. Think back over the dates when the board have previously been overrun with "I got my packet" threads.

They do send out singular packets constantly it seems, but there have been a few cases now of huge batches of packets going out and I swear it coincides with when we were talking about their quarterly earnings.

Now you've made me curious and I'll have to go digging and checking dates. Dangit! As if I didn't have enough to do... :P
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BTW, Amputate got one too...now they hunt designers as well???

I wonder when they come after the board owners
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Couldn't you mail the thing back to them saying truthfully that "Mike No-last-name" does not live there nor is do you employ anone by that name?

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Does anyone have a list of ALL the companies who have settled? I don't have a lot of affiliate accounts and so far, unless CQ was grouped in the settlement with LFP, I don't think I have affiliate accounts with the folks that settled. So...if that's the case AND I get a packet, that would mean they're getting the info somewhere else.
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This is getting absurd now.....

Serge I have been reading your posts on the Yahoo board.... You love fresh meat!! hahaha
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Serge I have been reading your posts on the Yahoo board.... You love fresh meat!! hahaha
Oh man, I went back and read some of those earlier today ... absolutely hilarious!
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This is getting absurd now.....

Serge I have been reading your posts on the Yahoo board.... You love fresh meat!! hahaha
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Apparently people who don't even HAVE adult websites are getting letters. I wonder if that mean Confucy will get one. She'll be able to finally say she has something in common with adult webmasters.
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Mike, PD, have you guys ever bought any content from Matrix?
It seems that folks have nailed it down that Matrix is the one giving out information to Acacia here:
http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?s...threadid=189275
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matrix was asked to give out their customer lists. i dont think that was a secret.

acacia put the squeeze on them very hard very early and put a lot of financial resources into getting their lists.



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matrix was asked to give out their customer lists. i dont think that was a secret.

acacia put the squeeze on them very hard very early and put a lot of financial resources into getting their lists.
Never did purchase anything from Matrix. I have affiliate accounts with a number of the companies that have settled, however.

Guess we'll see how good this agreement that Flynt affiliate income is exempt from this extortion is.
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Matrix denies that they ever gave out any info about anyone.....

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PD in order for that to work, I would think that Hustler would have to be your *only* sponsor.

Reading over some of those threads and in particular an exchange between MikeAI and Platinum Dave has me sitting here simply fucking stunned at the audacity, stupidity, and purely felonious activities that some people are willing to admit to on public boards.

Edit: Actually what has me even more stunned is that people continue to do business with them after shit like that has been admitted to. Why risk your business by aligning yourself with something like that? If that person will publically admit to doing that kind of thing, what makes you think he'd be more scrupulous and upstanding when it comes to business agreements between the two of you (or your companies)?
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PD in order for that to work, I would think that Hustler would have to be your *only* sponsor.

Reading over some of those threads and in particular an exchange between MikeAI and Platinum Dave has me sitting here simply fucking stunned at the audacity, stupidity, and purely felonious activities that some people are willing to admit to on public boards.

I am glad someone noticed. I was pretty shocked as well. He is not to bright apparently.


My other question is why would a Canadian corp settle? There is more here then we are being told.
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Mike, the real question is - has anyone reported it to the SEC?
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Probably not, but it is something that should be done. I wonder what steps have to be done. I cannot imagine just going on the website and submitting the information would do much.
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My other question is why would a Canadian corp settle? There is more here then we are being told.
I responded to this on GFY also but CE's an offshore company which settled. I would ASSume that if you did business in the states (i.e. have US customers, use US processing, etc.) then you'd be required to follow US laws. If not, then anyone could open up a shop offshore and start making every patented product known to man and sell it here.
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Makes it look more and more like they're just getting affiliate's names/contact info and not even taking the time to investigate the actual sites. :angry:
That's my thoughts. They're just sending out letters not even checking sites to see what is really going on or what type of site it is.

Are they hoping that with every letter they send out some moron will just right off the bat agree to send them cash?
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Just talked with a webmaster. His "wife" (they are not legally married) got her Acacia letter today. All domains are in the "hubbies" name not hers. The name on the letter is not her legal name. She has it on no legal doucments. It is not listed on any registrar. Nor is her real ("maiden") name.

She did use that name *one single time* when she did hubbie a favor and filled out a sponsor-affiliate join form and she put that down as a "lark" for the contact name. So she knows it came from only one place, a sponsor who settled with Acacia and then swore up and down on the boards that they did not give their webmaster list out to them.

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Just talked with a webmaster. His "wife" (they are not legally married) got her Acacia letter today. All domains are in the "hubbies" name not hers. The name on the letter is not her legal name. She has it on no legal doucments. It is not listed on any registrar. Nor is her real ("maiden") name.

She did use that name *one single time* when she did hubbie a favor and filled out a sponsor-affiliate join form and she put that down as a "lark" for the contact name. So she knows it came from only one place, a sponsor who settled with Acacia and then swore up and down on the boards that they did not give their webmaster list out to them.

Surprise, surprise. Not.
Obviously there is more then one company turning over their webmaster databases.

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Peaches there is a difference between people setting up offshroe companies to play games, but still live in the US, and true Canadien corporations with the owners living in Canada.
Ah...I didn't know that (she says having everything in GA :P ).
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She did use that name *one single time* when she did hubbie a favor and filled out a sponsor-affiliate join form and she put that down as a "lark" for the contact name. So she knows it came from only one place, a sponsor who settled with Acacia and then swore up and down on the boards that they did not give their webmaster list out to them.

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Just talked with a webmaster. His "wife" (they are not legally married) got her Acacia letter today. All domains are in the "hubbies" name not hers. The name on the letter is not her legal name. She has it on no legal doucments. It is not listed on any registrar. Nor is her real ("maiden") name.

She did use that name *one single time* when she did hubbie a favor and filled out a sponsor-affiliate join form and she put that down as a "lark" for the contact name. So she knows it came from only one place, a sponsor who settled with Acacia and then swore up and down on the boards that they did not give their webmaster list out to them.

Surprise, surprise. Not.
and just when you think your personal info is safe when you signup with a sponsor.
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and just when you think your personal info is safe when you signup with a sponsor.
Especially when you consider our tax info is with the sponsors also. :angry:
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That's the really scary part I soo agree
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Peaches, she said they only place she ever used that name was CE.

Interestingly with the boards buziing with names of CE, Python and Matrix all going around, my name is on each of those, and I still haven't gotten my letter!!

... I feel so all alone now.
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Peaches, she said they only place she ever used that name was CE.

Interestingly with the boards buziing with names of CE, Python and Matrix all going around, my name is on each of those, and I still haven't gotten my letter!!

... I feel so all alone now.
Hmmm - well, I haven't had an account with CE in 4-5 years. It will be interesting to see if I have a packet waiting for me next week. If I do, I'll be sure and send it to ya so you don't feel so left out.
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Peaches, she said they only place she ever used that name was CE.

Interestingly with the boards buziing with names of CE, Python and Matrix all going around, my name is on each of those, and I still haven't gotten my letter!!

... I feel so all alone now.
REmemebr the e-mail you sent ]m ethat you would NEVER sit on my face?>??

I am reporting you as we speak and make sure you are named as a Chief Conspirator!
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hehe Thanks, Serge. Now I feel loved!
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hehe Thanks, Serge. Now I feel loved!
I invited yahooligans to sit on my face too!

Dravyk, you gonna have lots of competition!
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