USS Liberty back in the news.....

sarettah · 10-22-2003

I am breaking with my usual policy of only posting a shortened version of the article because this issue is one of ongoing interest to several members of the board..So this time, the entire article is posted...
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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...spy_ship_israel

Cover-Up Alleged in Probe of USS Liberty
40 minutes ago
By JENNIFER C. KERR, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - A former Navy attorney who helped lead the military investigation of the 1967 Israeli attack on the USS Liberty that killed 34 American servicemen says former President Lyndon Johnson and his defense secretary, Robert McNamara, ordered that the inquiry conclude the incident was an accident.

In a signed affidavit released at a Capitol Hill news conference, retired Capt. Ward Boston said Johnson and McNamara told those heading the Navy's inquiry to "conclude that the attack was a case of 'mistaken identity' despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary."

Boston was senior legal counsel to the Navy's original 1967 review of the attack. He said in the sworn statement that he stayed silent for years because he's a military man, and "when orders come ... I follow them."

He said he felt compelled to "share the truth" following the publication of a recent book, "The Liberty Incident," which concluded the attack was unintentional.

The USS Liberty was an electronic intelligence-gathering ship that was cruising international waters off the Egyptian coast on June 8, 1967. Israeli planes and torpedo boats opened fire on the Liberty at what became known as the outbreak of the Israeli-Arab Six-Day War.

In addition to the 34 Americans killed, more than 170 were wounded.

Israel has long maintained that the attack was a case of mistaken identity, an explanation that the Johnson administration did not formally challenge. Israel claimed its forces thought the ship was an Egyptian vessel and apologized to the United States.

After the attack, a Navy court of inquiry concluded there was insufficient information to make a judgment about why Israel attacked the ship, stopping short of assigning blame or determining whether it was an accident.

It was "one of the classic all-American cover-ups," said Ret. Adm. Thomas Moorer, a former Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman who spent a year investigating the attack as part of an independent panel he formed with other former military officials. The panel also included a former U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia, James Akins.

"Why in the world would our government put Israel's interest ahead of our own?" Moorer asked from his wheelchair at the news conference. He was chief of naval operations at the time of the attack.

Moorer, who has long held that the attack was a deliberate act, wants Congress to investigate.

Israeli Embassy spokesman Mark Regev disputed any notion that Israel knowingly went after American sailors.

"I can say unequivocally that the Liberty tragedy was a terrible accident, that the Israeli pilots involved believed they were attacking an enemy ship," Regev said. "This was in the middle of a war. This is something that we are not proud of."

Calls to the Navy seeking comment were not immediately returned.

David Lewis of Lemington, Vt., was on the Liberty when it was attacked. In an interview, he said Israel had to know it was targeting an American ship. He said a U.S. flag was flying that day and Israel shot it full of holes. The sailors on the ship, he said, quickly hoisted another American flag, a much bigger one, to show Israel it was a U.S. vessel.

"No trained individual could be that inept," said Lewis of the Israeli forces.

In Capt. Boston's statement, he does not say why Johnson would have ordered a cover-up. Later in a phone interview from his home in Coronado, Calif., Boston said Johnson may have worried the inquiry would hurt him politically with Jewish voters.

Moorer's panel suggested several possible reasons Israel might have wanted to attack a U.S. ship. Among them: Israel intended to sink the ship and blame Egypt because it might have brought the United States into the 1967 war.

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PornoDoggy · 10-22-2003

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"I can say unequivocally that the Liberty tragedy was a terrible accident, that the Israeli pilots involved believed they were attacking an enemy ship," Regev said. "This was in the middle of a war. This is something that we are not proud of."

Even if you suspend common sense for a moment and believe that some of the best-trained pilots in what was then called the Free World couldn't recognize the Liberty as a United States Ship, the lying sack of shi, er, embassy spokesman doesn't even address the follow up waveS of attacks by torpedo boats.

And they are so "not proud" of it that they have the helm of one of the attacking torpedo boats in a fucking museum. Maybe we should build a museum and display Lt. Caley's M16? Frankly, I am as offended by that as I am sure an Israeli would - and should - be offended by someone placing the wheelhouse of the SS St. Louis in a museum as a token of honor, not evidence of a horrible mistake.

There has never been a doubt in my mind that Johnson ordered the cover up. Moorer, however, is just about as honorable in this situation as McNamara was in his memoirs on Vietnam. If Johnson ordered the coverup, the dirt was thrown in the faces of those sailors by HIM on HIS watch. I don't buy the political reasons for the coverup. The real reasons for it - like the reasons for the attack - will probably stay in the murky world of intel forever.

XXXManager · 10-23-2003

Who killed Martin Luther King?

PornoDoggy · 10-23-2003

I'm pretty sure that Jimmy (that's what they used to call him in the neighborhood) did it. (Yes, I really have met members of his family). He was a low-life from a long line of low lifes. Considering that the smartest member of the Ray family would have served as an example for the old "if brains were dynamite they couldn't have blown their noses" adage, I doubt he could have planned the operation or managed to elude capture for so long - so who put him up to it is still a mystery.

However, I doubt very seriously that whoever that was had anything to do with the deliberate, prolonged, and unproved attack on the practically defenseless USS Liberty. In my mind, it is absolutely no different than what happened 20 years ago today in Beruit, nor what happend more recently to the USS Cole.

I would like to see those responsible in Gitmo with any other garden variety terrorists responsible for killing American servicemen.

Mike AI · 10-23-2003

[quote]Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Oct 22 2003, 10:43 PM

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There has never been a doubt in my mind that Johnson ordered the cover up. Moorer, however, is just about as honorable in this situation as McNamara was in his memoirs on Vietnam. If Johnson ordered the coverup, the dirt was thrown in the faces of those sailors by HIM on HIS watch. I don't buy the political reasons for the coverup. The real reasons for it - like the reasons for the attack - will probably stay in the murky world of intel forever.

I agree!!

PornoDoggy · 10-23-2003

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Originally posted by Mike AI@Oct 23 2003, 07:37 PM

I agree!!

Hmmm ... I must be slipping.

10-22-2003	#1
sarettah Stay Out Of The Box Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Lost in the ozone Posts: 10,318	I am breaking with my usual policy of only posting a shortened version of the article because this issue is one of ongoing interest to several members of the board..So this time, the entire article is posted... ************************************************ *** http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...spy_ship_israel Cover-Up Alleged in Probe of USS Liberty 40 minutes ago By JENNIFER C. KERR, Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON - A former Navy attorney who helped lead the military investigation of the 1967 Israeli attack on the USS Liberty that killed 34 American servicemen says former President Lyndon Johnson and his defense secretary, Robert McNamara, ordered that the inquiry conclude the incident was an accident. In a signed affidavit released at a Capitol Hill news conference, retired Capt. Ward Boston said Johnson and McNamara told those heading the Navy's inquiry to "conclude that the attack was a case of 'mistaken identity' despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary." Boston was senior legal counsel to the Navy's original 1967 review of the attack. He said in the sworn statement that he stayed silent for years because he's a military man, and "when orders come ... I follow them." He said he felt compelled to "share the truth" following the publication of a recent book, "The Liberty Incident," which concluded the attack was unintentional. The USS Liberty was an electronic intelligence-gathering ship that was cruising international waters off the Egyptian coast on June 8, 1967. Israeli planes and torpedo boats opened fire on the Liberty at what became known as the outbreak of the Israeli-Arab Six-Day War. In addition to the 34 Americans killed, more than 170 were wounded. Israel has long maintained that the attack was a case of mistaken identity, an explanation that the Johnson administration did not formally challenge. Israel claimed its forces thought the ship was an Egyptian vessel and apologized to the United States. After the attack, a Navy court of inquiry concluded there was insufficient information to make a judgment about why Israel attacked the ship, stopping short of assigning blame or determining whether it was an accident. It was "one of the classic all-American cover-ups," said Ret. Adm. Thomas Moorer, a former Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman who spent a year investigating the attack as part of an independent panel he formed with other former military officials. The panel also included a former U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia, James Akins. "Why in the world would our government put Israel's interest ahead of our own?" Moorer asked from his wheelchair at the news conference. He was chief of naval operations at the time of the attack. Moorer, who has long held that the attack was a deliberate act, wants Congress to investigate. Israeli Embassy spokesman Mark Regev disputed any notion that Israel knowingly went after American sailors. "I can say unequivocally that the Liberty tragedy was a terrible accident, that the Israeli pilots involved believed they were attacking an enemy ship," Regev said. "This was in the middle of a war. This is something that we are not proud of." Calls to the Navy seeking comment were not immediately returned. David Lewis of Lemington, Vt., was on the Liberty when it was attacked. In an interview, he said Israel had to know it was targeting an American ship. He said a U.S. flag was flying that day and Israel shot it full of holes. The sailors on the ship, he said, quickly hoisted another American flag, a much bigger one, to show Israel it was a U.S. vessel. "No trained individual could be that inept," said Lewis of the Israeli forces. In Capt. Boston's statement, he does not say why Johnson would have ordered a cover-up. Later in a phone interview from his home in Coronado, Calif., Boston said Johnson may have worried the inquiry would hurt him politically with Jewish voters. Moorer's panel suggested several possible reasons Israel might have wanted to attack a U.S. ship. Among them: Israel intended to sink the ship and blame Egypt because it might have brought the United States into the 1967 war. http://www.bitsntits.com/front000001.htm __________________ Free Adult Webcams

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