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Old 06-05-2003   #1
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Blix: America jumped to a conclusion over weapons
By Anne Penketh
06 June 2003

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/politi...sp?story=412792

Hans Blix, the chief UN weapons inspector, said yesterday that it was "not justified to jump to the conclusion" that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction simply because Saddam Hussein's regime had failed to account for missing arms.

His parting shot to the Security Council will bolster the anti-war camp, which believed the Iraqi threat did not justify military action.
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Blix is not only an idiot, he's also on someone's payroll...

Think about this:
If Hussein had no WMD's why not simply throw open the doors and say "look for them". He would still b in power.
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isn't it also correct to assume that since he was known (as reported by weapons inspectors, Saddam's Government and the UN) to have illeagal weapons and programs unnacounted for that they still exist?

the same logic applies in the opposite direction. --- if weapons were known to exist and were not proven to not exist... the assumption has to be that they continue exist.
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Are we talking about the same Saddam who killed 3000-5000 Kurds in the village of Halajba using WMD and attacked upto 200 other Kurdish villages with WMD?

If people want evidence of WMD, then I suggest too speak with the Kurds, they know first hand what they are. Going around in the dessert and dig for barrels is stupid, when the evidence is just infront of our eyes!
I do not need to see WMD, when I can see babies born TODAY with birth defects because of WMD.

There is never "just" one event which cause nations to go to war... there are several events, which will leed to war. Saying it was because of "Oil", "WMD", "Saudi Arabia", "Terror", "Saddam", "Freedom" etc. is wrong - its the sum of all those problems which lead several nations to go to war with Saddam.
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Actually, we don't need WMD's...Saddam was paying terrorists, training terrorists, and providing refuge for terrorists. That was more than enough.
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Actually, we don't need WMD's...Saddam was paying terrorists, training terrorists, and providing refuge for terrorists. That was more than enough.
Exactly, that was the excuse for going in, not the reason.

The reason was to put on a whoop-ass demonstration for the Arab nations who harbor and support terrorism in response to 9/11.

Afghanistan was just the immediate response to the attacks and the pursuit of Osama and those most directly responsible.

Saddam's Iraq was a regime that was feared and considered one of the most militarily powerful in the region by many of their Arab neighbors. They've also thumbed their nose at the U.S. throughout the Clinton years with no real repercussions. Taking them out so proficiently and with relatively little effort sends a powerful message to their Arab neighbors.

It appears that message was received loud and clear by many of the intended recipients. The pucker factor among those remaining regimes in the region who have strained relations with the U.S. and ties to terrorism is pretty high right now.

WMDs or not, Saddam was basically begging for an ass whipping. There's been more than enough heinous things uncovered in Iraq to justify taking him out.
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Current Iraq WMD technology was never the real reason for going in, but it was overhyped to the point of expectaction and currently this issue dominates global media attention and in the absence of proof I think the US will lose a little credibility.

However, this post was a follow up on pre-war post on this board when someone, actually quite a few folks predicted the CIA would produce this WMD evidence if it wasn't found.



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However, this post was a follow up on pre-war post on this board when someone, actually quite a few folks predicted the CIA would produce this WMD evidence if it wasn't found.
I'm quite surprised there hasn't been faked evidence. George Bush is too honest? ;-)
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Who cares we are going to have cheap petrol now. That was the whole idea of the war. Who gives a shit about the people of Iraq. That fill up my SUV for cheap!

It actually sucks, when another style attack like 10/11 happens everyone will be asking why us, what did we do?
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This is a proper weapon of mass destruction!
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Bad Boy Rob, I think you are going to fit right in at Oprano!!

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Bad Boy Rob, I think you are going to fit right in at Oprano!!

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I thought so....looks like a great bunch of nutters here....and the main maniac the "Serge!"
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It actually sucks, when another style attack like 10/11 happens everyone will be asking why us, what did we do?
we liberate Iran and Syria,
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I think it may be time to get a trip to Hungary!!

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I think it may be time to get a trip to Hungary!!

Yep you go to Hungary and I will go to Hungry (I really should check my spelling before hitting Add Reply!)

Most of the Private girls like Monica Covet etc are from there. They are so open minded and great looking.
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I was supposed to go to Hungary last year...but I got married instead
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Serge, I forgot about the marriage thing... I guess I will have to bring Katie with me to Hungary!

BBR - I am a horrible speller - but I remember getting a bad mark from a teacher during a social studies fair in the 6th grade... The report was on NATO vs Warsaw Pact... and on the little graphics I made, I put HUNGRY...

So it is one of the few words I do know how to spell!
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Who cares we are going to have cheap petrol now. That was the whole idea of the war. Who gives a shit about the people of Iraq. That fill up my SUV for cheap!

It actually sucks, when another style attack like 10/11 happens everyone will be asking why us, what did we do?
Oh, Hell! Another CNN fan...
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