Today I watched Farenheit 9/11 for the first time.

[Mike AI]

Amazing how 2 people with not much in common on the outside could have such similiar views. Joe, Serge - Guys tell me which one is the leader? How can you both see the truth so well?

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by Mike AI

Amazing how 2 people with not much in common on the outside could have such similiar views. Joe, Serge - Guys tell me which one is the leader? How can you both see the truth so well?

you are blowing your chyance for $300

I'll give you 30 seconds more and increase the payout to $3000

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

you are blowing your chyance for $300

I'll give you 30 seconds more and increase the payout to $3000

darn, reading is hard work, I know..
I give you another 30 seconds and increase payout to $30,000 to the first one who point the number of the post Mike missed and keep making fool of himself.

[Mike AI]

Serge I must have missed it, I still cannot find a post where you dissavow Joeshoe's opinions.

[Mike AI]

Serge, I think you are going back using your Prostate Check powers and changing posts again.

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by Mike AI

Serge, I think you are going back using your Prostate Check powers and changing posts again.

you are a MOD, you can see when and if the post has been changed
(plus nowadays it says: dedited by..blah-blah)

Mike, the FOX tactics of attacing opponent with nonsence when one loses position and face won't work on me.

[Mike AI]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

you are a MOD, you can see when and if the post has been changed
(plus nowadays it says: dedited by..blah-blah)

Mike, the FOX tactics of attacing opponent with nonsence when one loses position and face won't work on me.

Serge you need some new material. The fox thing is old, boring, predictible.

Throw in some Ann Coulter following, or Rush Limbaigh, or Thomas Sowell.

Ohhhh even National Review.

You never give my father any credit.

[Winetalk.com]

#12 in this thread, subtle humor, like the most of my posts in this thread.
I guess my $30,000 are safe

[Winetalk.com]

Hey, Mike, why have you slowed down? 103 fever?

[Winetalk.com]

Sorry, but I don't let my own father to do what you are trying to do:
sway discussion into the branch.
We'll stay ON topic which is, and I remind you,
who else hasn't seen Farenheit 9/11?

[Mike AI]

Serge, I was indoctrinated at birth. You know my father, you have long e-mails going back and forth.

My wife says I have to get of the computer and take drink my chicken soup on Granny;s orders. I will try to sneak back later.

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by Mike AI

Serge, I was indoctrinated at birth..

Good for you...I found how one can be indoctrinated at conception!

[Mike AI]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

Good for you...I found how one can be indoctrinated at conception!

Serge, when does Ladylaw come back?

[Winetalk.com]

ok, I'll take a smoke break myself.
and....stop hiding behind your father's pants,
you are a grown up man for Christ sake


...or I'll tell your children that daddy is less important than grandpa!

[JoesHO]

Time tells all tales.

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by JoesHO

Time tells all tales.

ok, let's talk about Presidential pardons, while Mike is away.
We all know about Clinton's ones.
Whose name on the top of your mind when it comes to Bush's pardons?

[Mike AI]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

ok, let's talk about Presidential pardons, while Mike is away.
We all know about Clinton's ones.
Whose name on the top of your mind when it comes to Bush's pardons?

Scooter.



I am not hiding behind my father - just ensuring he gets proper credit. You keep wanting to give it to Foxnews.

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by Mike AI

Scooter.



I am not hiding behind my father - just ensuring he gets proper credit. You keep wanting to give it to Foxnews.

allrighty than...

so, whom do you think Bush is going to pardon?

[Mike AI]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

allrighty than...

so, whom do you think Bush is going to pardon?

Serge already answered. It's your turn to go back and re-read posts.

[Cleo]

I haven't seen it. I already hate the Shrubbery in the White House. Why watch a movie that is going to make me more depressed?

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by Cleo

Why watch a movie that is going to make me more depressed?

The only movie which made me more depressed had this entry button:

[JoesHO]

Cheney
Rove
Libby

and maybe even Delay

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by JoesHO

Cheney
Rove
Libby

and maybe even Delay

Not Ken Lay?

[PornoDoggy]

I have not seen the film. Started to watch it a couple of times on cable, but found CSI reruns more interesting.

I don't need Moore to think for me. Moore is as predictable on any given issue as Bill O'Reilly or

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by PornoDoggy

I have not seen the film. Started to watch it a couple of times on cable, but found CSI reruns more interesting.

I don't need Moore to think for me. Moore is as predictable on any given issue as Bill O'Reilly or

re-read my first post. Conclusions are questionable,
facts are rather interesting.

[slavdogg]

Serge, what did you find so interesting about the movie ?
Can you post the details please.

oh and you should check out fahrenhype 911

[Winetalk.com]

Slav,
here is what I found facinating:
1) close business ties between Saudies and Bush family
2) lack of coordination between government agencies prior to 9/11
3) how Congress passes laws without even reading them
and most of all,
the new uprising talent in pop music:
Ashcroft

[slavdogg]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

Slav,
here is what I found facinating:
1) close business ties between Saudies and Bush family
2) lack of coordination between government agencies prior to 9/11
3) how Congress passes laws without even reading them

Serge,
Saudies have $800b in US bank accounts.
I would say they have close ties to most Americans in one form or another.
#2, Did you really need to see a Moore movie to have learned that ?

Any other interesting facts you found facinating ?

[Winetalk.com]

Slav, I checked the website Mike posted,
saw "testimonoals" written in the best tradition of Lubianka and even them don't disagree with my claim:
Ashcroft is a heck of a singer and should persue professional singing career.

[Winetalk.com]

why do you ask? We are not planning on having indoctrinated babies.

[Winetalk.com]

Slav, you "shattered" one fascination with fact...what about other 2?

Plus..where exactly have you learned about the amount of Saudi's involvement in USA economy and WHEN?

[slavdogg]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

Slav, you "shattered" one fascination with fact...what about other 2?

Plus..where exactly have you learned about the amount of Saudi's involvement in USA economy and WHEN?

ok i had to go searching for you
this is the first one i found. Its all over the web, do some research
http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20060...3622-3038r.htm
"government sources estimate Saudi holdings in the United States at $400 billion to $800 billion, the matter warrants public attention. "

>> 2) lack of coordination between government agencies prior to 9/11
nothing interesting about that, and not much has changed
CIA was not allowed to talk to FBI prior to 911
FBI still does not like dealing with local agencies, currently
No surpise that local agencies could not cordinate things between themselves. Turf wars are nothing new. Look at Katrina ...

3. Mike can comment on that one better than I can.


btw, Moore movie was shown in Lowes Theaters here, Lowes is owned by Carlyle Group.

[Winetalk.com]

Slav,
1) you just confirmed that you learned this fact from the movie, same way I did and before Moore this one plus one equals two wasn't even in your head.

2) I am not privy to what FBI and CIA really do today and their joing efforts during Katrina.

3) ..and what does it tell you? Carlyle will do ANYTHING for a buck!

[slavdogg]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

Slav,
1) you just confirmed that you learned this fact from the movie, same way I did and before Moore this one plus one equals two wasn't even in your head.

i had no idea that was in the movie actually
I saw it once at 5am and only really watched about 75% of it...
so i'll take your word for it.

[Winetalk.com]

Originally Posted by slavdogg

i had no idea that was in the movie actually
I saw it once at 5am and only really watched about 75% of it...
so i'll take your word for it.

Are you telling me you learned it from me? I leanred it from the movie.

[slavdogg]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

Are you telling me you learned it from me? I leanred it from the movie.

i said i read it online
years ago
It has been mentioned in many financial sites in the past as well.

[PornoDoggy]

I think that claiming the Saudis "have close ties to most Americans in one form or another" is an excellent example of chutzpah, but I'm still not certain that Bush family ties to Saudi money have much to do with 9/11.

Let me rephrase that - most of the time when people start talking about 9/11 in conjunction with Bush family ties to Saudi money, I seem to detect the distinct crinkle of a tin foil hat maintained at the ready in case of stealth black helicopter attack.

There was a wall between foreign and domestic intelligence agencies put up in the 70s, when it was discovered that the two sides had engaged in some blatant abuses of their powers. The thing that gets lost in most discussions of this issue is that enormous resources were diverted from matters of importance to petty grievances and hairbrained schemes.

A reporter or editor, newspaper or magazine, author of a letter to the editor, or public speaker could become a long-term subject of interest to the FBI, for example, if they were critical of the agency or the director.

I sort of agree with Serge on one major point - I do think that both the State of Missouri and the United States as a whole would have been far better off if John Ashcroft had pursued a singing career.

[Winetalk.com]

I think that claiming the Saudis "have close ties to most Americans in one form or another" is an excellent example of chutzpah, but I'm still not certain that Bush family ties to Saudi money have much to do with 9/11.

They are not. I say it's prepastrous even to suggest that.

But the fact is still VERY interesting.

[Winetalk.com]

I sort of agree with Serge on one major point - I do think that both the State of Missouri and the United States as a whole would have been far better off if John Ashcroft had pursued a singing career.

Halleluya!
Don't you think, MikeAI? C'mon, show us you are not FOXed robot.

[PornoDoggy]

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com

Halleluya!
Don't you think, MikeAI? C'mon, show us you are not FOXed robot.

If Mike had to pick an Attorney-General, I'll bet he'd show his bipartisanship and pick a Democrat. Woodrow Wilson's AG (Palmer) made Mitchell look like Jerry Rubin, Meese look like Teddy Kennedy, and Ashcroft look like Cindy Sheehan.

Some of the right-wing pseudofacist capitalist war monger expert worker exploiters, er, lawyers that I used to work for told me that he was a very nice man, personally.

However, these same sunsabitches once trapped me in a van listening to Rush Fucking Limbaugh for what had to be the longest two hours of my life, so ...

[Stacey_JoinRightNow]

sad to say I havent watch it yet to be honest I didnt even heard it,

[Winetalk.com]

Stacey, you are one lucky woman. What country do you live in?