Deecash and Secondary processing shave

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

There is an amusing tale being told at the zoo this week, one that almost has me wanting to bust out and post something over there because it's such a crock of shit.

The program in question is boyfriendbucks, one of the many out there that seem to be working a new scam, secondary processing shave. Basically, they got busted and added this to the T&C:



Basically, if you have a cascade billing system with NATS, you apparently can define a seconary processor as being a "non-affiliate paying" processor. So if you fail out of their default processor, everything after that is a "free game" for them.

The real trick of course is to select the tightest processor to be your "main" processor for the site. The only stuff that gets approved on submit has to be 100% clean and perfect, probably only the best countries, CC never used for porn before, etc. Everyone else goes to a secondary processor, and well, at that point it no longer matters for the affiliate.

What disappoints me the most is that the folks from TMM / NATS don't seem to be addressing the issue. They are getting called out on the zoo, they are posting, but they are ignoring the issue. It appears (at least from an affiliate standpoint) that there is clearly an easy way to shave NATS: Use a tightass primary processor and don't pay for anything else.

I would love to hear the TMM official word on this sort of thing. Certainly if nothing else this gives another reason why Deecash programs convert so poorly, especially right after takeover. It would also explain why they are always so horny to move to NATS as soon as they take something over.

Careful calling TMM out. Last person did got sued.
Ask Shellie Hale.

Maybe Deepak Agarwal will drop by with an explanation.

[RawAlex]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Careful calling TMM out. Last person did got sued.
Ask Shellie Hale.

I am very careful. I wouldn't say that TMM has created this situation intentionally, but it is clearly a situation where affiliate programs using NATS are able to shave traffic and sales away from affiliates. I am not sure they intended it, I am only observing it.

I would hope that John or perhaps Vlad would grace us with a visit and let us know how things are going.