Is it time to make the move to 3d?

[softball]

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

I shoot a lot of porn and no one is asking me to shoot in 3D. I know a few producers do, but I haven't. I don't think it will ever be more than a niche market. In the time I would mess around with shooting and editing a 3D movie I could shoot and edit five HD movies. HD vs SD however is another story. Not only has HD become the standard acquisition format nowadays, but clients now even know the difference between HDV and the higher end full raster HD cameras. Even if one releases a movie on a standard definition DVD it will look much better if it was shot in HD. Anyone still shooting in SD now is foolish that great HDV or HD cameras are so inexpensive.

anyone that has been shooting 4 by 3 in the last ten years missed the boat. I shoot a lot of porn, but I don't have clients, so I only have my instincts to guide me. Still not 100% about 3D, but I am curious what will be launched after NAB. I am just not kicking it to the curb.
You know what they are going to call HD in a couple of years?






TV.

[tony404]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

anyone that has been shooting 4 by 3 in the last ten years missed the boat. I shoot a lot of porn, but I don't have clients, so I only have my instincts to guide me. Still not 100% about 3D, but I am curious what will be launched after NAB. I am just not kicking it to the curb.
You know what they are going to call HD in a couple of years?






TV.

in the last ten yrs? thats 2001, you had an hd camera before the prosumer ones even came out?
Well my friend works for mainstream TV not porn where anyone with a camera can shoot. And he only added an hd cam 2 yrs ago, he had no call for it. He still uses the sd cam a now and then.
Again I will add if you think the format sells porn your kidding yourself.

[miz_wright]

Originally Posted by bluemoney

I can take 3D in very short periods but after a while I get a headache. That's why I never go to see movies in 3D.

Originally Posted by DannyCox

I also never watch anything in 3D. It's fine for those Disney World 10 minute videos, but anything longer just annoys me. A good friend of mine owns a high end electronics store and the 3D TV's just aren't selling. Sony and Panasonic are selling them to dealers at well below cost to try and move them to pump the sales numbers.

I can't say a word about 3D gaming as my last gaming experience was with my Atari and Colecovision!

While I think there are many reasons 3D is a contender - there are also physiological reasons that it is still problematic, chief among them that the human eye/ mind doesn't parse flat ---> well, resulting in that headache Blue mentions.

I love the idea, and I think there are times it can be very well done (I've seen some really nice anaglyph, actually) - but first, we have to overcome the technological shortcomings of the human body.

[softball]

Originally Posted by tony404

in the last ten yrs? thats 2001, you had an hd camera before the prosumer ones even came out?
Well my friend works for mainstream TV not porn where anyone with a camera can shoot. And he only added an hd cam 2 yrs ago, he had no call for it. He still uses the sd cam a now and then.
Again I will add if you think the format sells porn your kidding yourself.

I did have an hd camera before the release of the first prosumer because I was in the tv business and well connected....2003. But I was playing with various broadcast cameras before then. I owned Sony Betacams and Ikegamis for years before I got into using home video cameras for porn. Before I had the FX1, I also had a pd150 which would at least shoot wide screen. Maybe I got my year wrong, but all of my videos since then (thousands) are all hd.
Your friend only got an hd cam a couple of years ago because he had no call for it? Well, his clients are all sucking wind now with their old fashioned looking footage. 4 x 3 looks like black and white when colour took over. The HD component of this discussion was settled years ago and still people argue over it. Sigh.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

I did have an hd camera before the release of the first prosumer because I was in the tv business and well connected....2003. But I was playing with various broadcast cameras before then. I owned Sony Betacams and Ikegamis for years before I got into using home video cameras for porn. Before I had the FX1, I also had a pd150 which would at least shoot wide screen. Maybe I got my year wrong, but all of my videos since then (thousands) are all hd.
Your friend only got an hd cam a couple of years ago because he had no call for it? Well, his clients are all sucking wind now with their old fashioned looking footage. 4 x 3 looks like black and white when colour took over. The HD component of this discussion was settled years ago and still people argue over it. Sigh.

I used to think no one would want to see bleached assholes in high def but I was wrong.

Mike South and you were both right..people want to see this shit on their TV.

Large screen TVs are going to drive the demand or lack of it for 3D.

I got my eye on a G Slate coming out later this month. Its an android tablet and it comes with a simple 3d type camera.

And I have to say its threads like this that make me want to keep the board up and running as there is discussion and disagreement by people that really know what they are talking about.

Refreshing when I have to read about someones dog watching them blow a load or some idiot asking you to poste a picture of your cell phone.

[tony404]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

I did have an hd camera before the release of the first prosumer because I was in the tv business and well connected....2003. But I was playing with various broadcast cameras before then. I owned Sony Betacams and Ikegamis for years before I got into using home video cameras for porn. Before I had the FX1, I also had a pd150 which would at least shoot wide screen. Maybe I got my year wrong, but all of my videos since then (thousands) are all hd.
Your friend only got an hd cam a couple of years ago because he had no call for it? Well, his clients are all sucking wind now with their old fashioned looking footage. 4 x 3 looks like black and white when colour took over. The HD component of this discussion was settled years ago and still people argue over it. Sigh.

I dont think fox tv or the weather channel or the travel channel or playboy tv or his industrial clients have problem with it. Also your shooting porn not citizen kane. Like in 20 yrs people are going to have this dying need for the porn content you have been shooting so better future proof it. if it makes you happy go for it but hotness sells porn not format.

[softball]

Originally Posted by tony404

I dont think fox tv or the weather channel or the travel channel or playboy tv or his industrial clients have problem with it. Also your shooting porn not citizen kane. Like in 20 yrs people are going to have this dying need for the porn content you have been shooting so better future proof it. if it makes you happy go for it but hotness sells porn not format.

I heard all this before about HD. Let me tell you a story. Five years ago I shot a site in HD. I did the whole thing in a month. Three months later it was paid for. That site is still updating and its only expenses are bandwidth. It will probably last another five years repurposed. Now, its not exactly the duration of Citizen Kane, but it has made me a shitpot of money. Had I shot 4 X 3 like everyone back then said was all that was needed, I would be in the shitcan with that site and it would have been a costly error.
Those broadcast channels are on a whole other playing field. They are large screen formats and I will bet you there are production companies out there that supply those channels that are covering their asses and shooting 3d but you might not see it for years. A lot of broadcast "experts" fucked up by not shooting at least 16 X 9.
Not everyone is on the ball.
BTW, I haven't committed to this yet, but the clock may be ticking.
Tony, what sites do you film for?

[tony404]

I just sweep the floors here at oprano dont shoot anything. Gonzo we are out of toilet paper.

[softball]

Originally Posted by tony404

I just sweep the floors here at oprano dont shoot anything. Gonzo we are out of toilet paper.

Oh, I thought you took pictures.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by tony404

I just sweep the floors here at oprano dont shoot anything. Gonzo we are out of toilet paper.

Ill let Woogie know. Hes doing clean up on aisle 5.