When will it be lights out for the paysite model?

[gonzo]

I think the paysite model is getting a tune up.
I agree with most of the points brought up in the thread.

This industry is CLUELESS about what it will take to get mobile over.
No one wants to innovate the next generation of sites to exploit mobile consumers. Too many look at it as a screen resolution and bitrate issue.

I see it as an app issue.

I think the next combination of great sites will take advantage of viewing video on your big screen tv as one component of interest. But then again what would I know about video on demand . . .

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by gonzo

This industry is CLUELESS about what it will take to get mobile over.
No one wants to innovate the next generation of sites to exploit mobile consumers. Too many look at it as a screen resolution and bitrate issue.

I see it as an app issue.

I think the next combination of great sites will take advantage of viewing video on your big screen tv as one component of interest. But then again what would I know about video on demand . . .

I agree here that it's an app issue, but also, you MUST have a good, safe payment model for mobile. An incremental model. Something for 99 cents"ish"

Now, your big screen holds more promise. But the obvious, "set top box" ain't gonna get it done. (As NOOF found out, to their loss.)
Can't make that work, and not because of price or tech.
You got to get it into a Roku box, locked away. Otherwise, too many "questions" about "what that box is," or "What's this channel, Dad/Husband?"

Convergence of the two? Possibly. There's a move to that. (Mobile device to Hd output.) But it's got to just WORK. Not be screwing around with connections, and figuring crap out.

Gotta grease the porn ramp. (No pun intended)

[tony404]

Originally Posted by gonzo

I think the paysite model is getting a tune up.
I agree with most of the points brought up in the thread.

This industry is CLUELESS about what it will take to get mobile over.
No one wants to innovate the next generation of sites to exploit mobile consumers. Too many look at it as a screen resolution and bitrate issue.

I see it as an app issue.

I think the next combination of great sites will take advantage of viewing video on your big screen tv as one component of interest. But then again what would I know about video on demand . . .

I can see it as look whats on my phone but people jacking to their phones nope. That's why it doesnt take off. Also everything doesnt have to be about porn. I know its shocking lol. The 99 cent model doesnt work for porn because you cant do the numbers to make it work. Its not like a song selling that song for 99 cents on itunes is a very small part of how the artist makes income.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by tony404

I can see it as look whats on my phone but people jacking to their phones nope. That's why it doesnt take off. Also everything doesnt have to be about porn. I know its shocking lol. The 99 cent model doesnt work for porn because you cant do the numbers to make it work. Its not like a song selling that song for 99 cents on itunes is a very small part of how the artist makes income.

Free works and I imagine the possibilities.

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by tony404

I can see it as look whats on my phone but people jacking to their phones nope. That's why it doesnt take off. Also everything doesnt have to be about porn. I know its shocking lol. The 99 cent model doesnt work for porn because you cant do the numbers to make it work. Its not like a song selling that song for 99 cents on itunes is a very small part of how the artist makes income.

I heard that same crap back in 1987 when I was buying VHS tapes, DELIVERED, for about $1.85.

Today, I can buy DVDs, DELIVERED, in about the 70-80 cents range without looking. I'm betting if I spent some time? I could go 50 cents. And that's physical media delivered. This is the thing the "online" world never "got."

The old boys, who used to shoot on film, then moved "direct to tape," to be cost effective, know exactly how much value content has. There are hundreds of thousands of catalog titles out there, and they'd be happy to get 25 cents for a license.

99 cents? oh yea. That's gonna be the "retail" sales level at some point, real soon.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ

I heard that same crap back in 1987 when I was buying VHS tapes, DELIVERED, for about $1.85.

Today, I can buy DVDs, DELIVERED, in about the 70-80 cents range without looking. I'm betting if I spent some time? I could go 50 cents. And that's physical media delivered. This is the thing the "online" world never "got."

The old boys, who used to shoot on film, then moved "direct to tape," to be cost effective, know exactly how much value content has. There are hundreds of thousands of catalog titles out there, and they'd be happy to get 25 cents for a license.

99 cents? oh yea. That's gonna be the "retail" sales level at some point, real soon.

It already is for most of the world.

[tony404]

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ

I heard that same crap back in 1987 when I was buying VHS tapes, DELIVERED, for about $1.85.

Today, I can buy DVDs, DELIVERED, in about the 70-80 cents range without looking. I'm betting if I spent some time? I could go 50 cents. And that's physical media delivered. This is the thing the "online" world never "got."

The old boys, who used to shoot on film, then moved "direct to tape," to be cost effective, know exactly how much value content has. There are hundreds of thousands of catalog titles out there, and they'd be happy to get 25 cents for a license.

99 cents? oh yea. That's gonna be the "retail" sales level at some point, real soon.

1987 the industry was how much smaller? Also I was a porn buyer in 87 and no one was giving porn away for super cheap. So the idea 99 cents will be the hot retail model is the path for failure. We arent music.we cant go on tour and sell t shirts. Nothing can compete with free and 5 million closed credit cards. The problem is people are getting desperate and its going to be the race to the bottom.

[housekeeper]

Originally Posted by tony404

people jacking to their phones nope. That's why it doesnt take off.

I'm of the firm belief that people most certainly will be jacking off to their phones, and that will be the big attraction. Guys will going into the stalls at their jobs and hacking their carrots, sitting on the train on the way to work in the morning viewing mobile porn and nudging their noodles. A guy may go to pick up his girl from her night job, and while he waits in the car decides to pull it out and work it. Any nook or cranny that offers the slightest bit of privacy will be the perfect venue to a quick mobile stroke.

Once the billing and delivery methods have been solidified, it will be on. Keep in mind there are a lot of married men and people living in homes where they're unable to watch porn at their leisure, mobile porn will be like a walking peep-show.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by housekeeper

I'm of the firm belief that people most certainly will be jacking off to their phones, and that will be the big attraction. Guys will going into the stalls at their jobs and hacking their carrots, sitting on the train on the way to work in the morning viewing mobile porn and nudging their noodles. A guy may go to pick up his girl from her night job, and while he waits in the car decides to pull it out and work it. Any nook or cranny that offers the slightest bit of privacy will be the perfect venue to a quick mobile stroke.

Once the billing and delivery methods have been solidified, it will be on. Keep in mind there are a lot of married men and people living in homes where they're unable to watch porn at their leisure, mobile porn will be like a walking peep-show.

I dont see the phones but I do see android tablets.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by gonzo

I dont see the phones but I do see android tablets.

Tablets that aren't 'locked' in to buying apps at the Apple App Store will be a game changer in that market.

[tony404]

Originally Posted by gonzo

I dont see the phones but I do see android tablets.

for an android tablet they dont need an app they can use a browser just like a laptop.