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[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

All I can say is that you need to spend a little time in China. There is little about the government exploiting anyone. it is all about bottom line business, good old American style free enterprise, free of almost all government oversight.

You must lead a very suspicious life, considering almost everything you deal with on a daily basis has some component or some tie to Chinese manufacturing, including your penis pump toy.

Hong Kong, or China? There is a difference. And yes, it is hard fo almost any manufacturer to have some kind of tie to china. They have effectively eliminated some industries from the USA. Like Stamped and magnesium cast gears, which we do buy from a Chinese supplier. But ONLY because they CAN'T be bought here. Motors from Japan. (Better quality.--also can't get them here.) But pretty much everything else is made right here in North America. (The plastic black acrylic tubing is sometimes made in a Canadian Plant, by an American Company. But it is also made in the USA, so we have no control over which stock we get-we have requested "made in USA" when available.) The rest of the tubing/pipe is all made in USA. The sheet plastic, electronics case, made in USA. (case end panels, made in our facility as well) Labels, packaging, lubes, cleaner? .....yep, you betcha....Made in USA.

As for the rest of our sexual simulation system, is completely assembled, and manufactured HERE, in the USA. And it all carries a "made in USA" label.
(Actually, it says "Proudly manufactured in the United States of America." (except the circuit boards, which are also 100% assembled here...they say "made in USA" because that's all that would fit.

Hell, even the rivets are made in USA.

(And it will always be that way.)

[RawAlex]

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ

Hong Kong, or China? There is a difference. And yes, it is hard fo almost any manufacturer to have some kind of tie to china. They have effectively eliminated some industries from the USA. Like Stamped and magnesium cast gears, which we do buy from a Chinese supplier. But ONLY because they CAN'T be bought here. Motors from Japan. (Better quality.--also can't get them here.) But pretty much everything else is made right here in North America. (The plastic black acrylic tubing is sometimes made in a Canadian Plant, by an American Company. But it is also made in the USA, so we have no control over which stock we get-we have requested "made in USA" when available.) The rest of the tubing/pipe is all made in USA. The sheet plastic, electronics case, made in USA. (case end panels, made in our facility as well) Labels, packaging, lubes, cleaner? .....yep, you betcha....Made in USA.

As for the rest of our sexual simulation system, is completely assembled, and manufactured HERE, in the USA. And it all carries a "made in USA" label.
(Actually, it says "Proudly manufactured in the United States of America." (except the circuit boards, which are also 100% assembled here...they say "made in USA" because that's all that would fit.

Hell, even the rivets are made in USA.

(And it will always be that way.)

Hong Kong and China. In the last 4 years, I have visited both on multple occasions, and spent extended time in mainland China itself (not in the touristy areas either). China is an incredible wild capitalism gone wild experiment, the streets are packed with people selling anything and everything, companies all over the place, huge stores, malls, commercial streets that go as far as the eye can see. Condos and houses being built as fast as possible, and people investing in everything from housing, to cars, to big screen TVs. Business crop up all the time to install TVs, wash cars, and so on. All the trappings of capitalism, right there in the middle of "red" China.

Hong Kong is actually slow compared to China.

Your Japanese motors, by the way, probably use parts made in China. Japan actually doesn't have enough physical space for many of it's industries, so the motors are likely assembled from wire and magnets made in China. Often, things like thin sheet steel used for cases are actually made in China and sold in the US by US companies, similar to plastic pellets, which are often made in china and then exported in bulk to plastic factories in the US and Canada.

Made in the US essentially means Assembled in the US from part made all over the world. The people making power supplies may put the in the plastic box in the US, but the parts are made in China (or Indonesia, or Thailand - many of your hard drives and condoms come from Thailand these days).

It isn't the 60s anymore, it's a worldwide supply chain, and you can never be certain where your raw materials come from.

Perhaps you could expand your horizons a bit and spend some time in Asia. It might cure you of the "American is the best" thing that is causing you problems.

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Made in the US essentially means Assembled in the US from part made all over the world. The people making power supplies may put the in the plastic box in the US, but the parts are made in China (or Indonesia, or Thailand - many of your hard drives and condoms come from Thailand these days).

.

It means a bit more than that. It also means we stand behind it. We're here, and if it goes wrong, you can haul my ass in to an American court. (I choose this example so your "expanded asian mind" can understand it.)

That's not the case for "made in China."
For many reasons (including the liability one, and many you wouldn't understand,) that's why "made in USA" means something more. When my name is on the package, I've got to believe in it. And it has to match my level of quality. You can make all the jokes you want, but it's my creation, and it will be made with quality and reliability. Or it won't be made.
It's really that simple to me.

And yes, your sheet metal example goes beyond even your limited example......
Not only is the metal made in China, but we make the raw materials, ship them to china, (at great expense,) china refines them, creates the sheet metal, ships it back, (again, the expense,) and sells it back to use at a cheaper price than we can produce it here.

There's no question it's a Flat Earth, and we're on the back side. But in this one spot, I've got my finger, firmly stuck in the dike.
I don't have it stuck in my own ass, and wondering where the pain is coming from.