Why the surfers are no longer buying

[Cleo]

Water is free and available everywhere yet people still buy bottled water, me included.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Cleo

Water is free and available everywhere yet people still buy bottled water, me included.

Mighty fine new program to the left of your message too.
People will pay for convenience and quality.

[tony404]

Originally Posted by Cleo

Water is free and available everywhere yet people still buy bottled water, me included.

porn isnt water

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by tony404

porn isnt water

Close to it though in a sense. I always say "sex is food and people have to eat". The day people stop having sex for procreation it might change... but I doubt it. There is reliable proof that gay people still have sex even though no procreation is possible.

That, plus the notion that humankind has an inate "grass is greener on the other side" curiousity and yearning means that the ability to sell quality adult entertainment is going to go on as long as...

Well I was going to say the "world's oldest profession"... lol

[tony404]

Originally Posted by Far-L

Close to it though in a sense. I always say "sex is food and people have to eat". The day people stop having sex for procreation it might change... but I doubt it. There is reliable proof that gay people still have sex even though no procreation is possible.

That, plus the notion that humankind has an inate "grass is greener on the other side" curiousity and yearning means that the ability to sell quality adult entertainment is going to go on as long as...

Well I was going to say the "world's oldest profession"... lol

I could jack off all day every day to free porn probably for at least 5 yrs and never hit the same clip twice. They need sex they dont need to pay when they can get it for free. I cant believe you sing the praises of free when lots of people bought porn when all they had was a box cover. That's how thru bad times adult always made money because it wasn't given away like candy in a desperate attempt to make a sale. This industry is devaluing itself out of existence.

[RawAlex]

Originally Posted by tony404

I could jack off all day every day to free porn probably for at least 5 yrs and never hit the same clip twice. They need sex they dont need to pay when they can get it for free. I cant believe you sing the praises of free when lots of people bought porn when all they had was a box cover. That's how thru bad times adult always made money because it wasn't given away like candy in a desperate attempt to make a sale. This industry is devaluing itself out of existence.

A couple of lifetimes ago, I was up front for a seminar at an Adultdex show with Mikefold, which was an experience to say the least. I am not the best speaker in the world, and OldFold was still running on rum and cokes from the night before. We were quite a team.

One of the subjects on the table was teasing versus pleasing. At the time, a number that was kicked around was that it took in the neighborhood of 6 minutes with the right video product for a guy to get off. Therefore, the simple rule: If it takes 6 minutes, never give them that for free.

Tube sites miss this very basic concept. Many of them give full scenes, and many of them run videos way over 10 minutes. Many even have the full monty and the full finish, effectively the whole scene.

What is left to sell?

Their answer is they sell things like cam shows, dating sites, penis pills, and all sorts of things that cannot be tubed. It was a functional business model for a while, I guess, but even these guys are feeling the squeeze. Fewer and fewer new signups to these sites, many of those programs are played out and not making the money they once were, and many of the penis pill guys have been chased out of business by law enforcement actions (and smart moves by Visa and Mastercard).

Their other source was insane cross billing, if you could get an mark to put up his credit card, you whacked the thing harder than he whacked his dick to the "free" video, leaving people with hundreds of dollars of unexplained charges, hoping they are too shy or too stupid to charge them back.

It's a brilliant business model, one that has put enough money on the side of the big tube site owners that they are now also either producing their own content in scale (Brazzers) or purchasing content wholesale for their tube sites direction (many others).

Someone will wake up and realize that the porn business only works when you market and sell porn, and don't allow your products to be given away to sell someone elses stuff.

[RawAlex]

Originally Posted by Cleo

Water is free and available everywhere yet people still buy bottled water, me included.

Well, put it this way: If 75% of the time you buy bottled water, you get charged an extra $200 a month later on your credit card for no reason, how much bottled water would you be buying?

The online porn industry is it's own worst enemy, too much in a rush to make big money today an not giving a shit about tomorrow (or even later today).

[tony404]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Well, put it this way: If 75% of the time you buy bottled water, you get charged an extra $200 a month later on your credit card for no reason, how much bottled water would you be buying?

The online porn industry is it's own worst enemy, too much in a rush to make big money today an not giving a shit about tomorrow (or even later today).

amen