Why the surfers are no longer buying

[softball]

The content thieves, whether they by the little guy in London, or the big Pirate in Sweden are thieves. There is no argument. Theft in any industry is unsustainable. These initial lawsuits will have an impact the first time some crying 20 year old has to sell his car to pay a fine to a guy like Lightspeed. Next up, a bigger pirate will wind up in jail or his legs broken in Russia by a very pissed off content provider. This will settle down. Just like prohibition did.
There should be no discussion on the right or wrong of this. There is not two sides to this issue. There is our side and then there are the bad guys.
In this case, whether you like him or not, Steve Lightspeed is a good guy. In fact he is a very good guy.
His motivation may be money. But what is wrong with that? He makes money and he helps all honest business people by fucking up a few very nasty "non consumers". I have heard the argument that you shouldn't blame the consumer. Fuck it. They know damn well they are thieves.
Look at the mess Hollywood is in at the moment. Look at the crap quality of movies lately. (Box office off 17 per cent because of poor quality films) because genuine investors are afraid of winding up like "The Hurt Locker". So I say good fucking luck to Lightspeed and anyone else who can convince a lawyer to take on a multi million dollar case and fuck these assholes up.
Oh yeah, and I do believe that moving junk traffic from porn to gambling, dating etc. is on the wain. Way too many broken links. Way too many rehashed old movies. The only good thing about what is happening is porn traffic is devaluing for anything but...well....porn.
There is still a pot of gold at the end of this here rainbow as the lead drops from the pockets of the thieves.

[Far-L]

"Freemium" is not only a great term but it is a marketing device that was around long before tube sites became the great evil of all things.

Oh yeah...

Even way back when people were saying free would be the end for everyone. We see how well that proved to be true.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Far-L

"Freemium" is not only a great term but it is a marketing device that was around long before tube sites became the great evil of all things.

Oh yeah...

Even way back when people were saying free would be the end for everyone. We see how well that proved to be true.

And your point is?

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

And your point is?

My point is that freemium has been around since day one and made people lots of money. One could argue that the length of movies given for free has had an impact but I would counter with the fact that if all someone could jerk off to before was a picture for free then how is that really different? The dude still pulled one off for free. An orgasm is an orgasm regardless.

The lure of Premium will always attract buyers that will shill out their hard earned cash for something percieved as superior, service, content, exclusivity, all are essential.

The same people I tend to see complaining about free are the ones I was wondering why they gave so much away before tubes came along. A lot of the programs I have seen fall away were ones that were all hype and very short on much else.

The sites that have survived and thrived, even now, are those that gave equal focus to providing a solid product to support the hype.

[TheEnforcer]

Originally Posted by Far-L

"Freemium" is not only a great term but it is a marketing device that was around long before tube sites became the great evil of all things.

Oh yeah...

Even way back when people were saying free would be the end for everyone. We see how well that proved to be true.

Hey Far-L good to see you.. :>))


I, and I imagine most people, don't have a problem with free content as a way to try and get customers to buy your stuff. Giving away samples has been a staple of business for a very long time. I just think a great many people think that the amount and direction the distribution of free content that takes place severely devalues the end product.

Many would say that this business devalues it's product with free stuff more than any other business out there...