*AVN Show*-Florida, pictures from F.U.B.A.R.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by DannyCox

I heard it wasn't a very productive show for many people as there was just too few actual decision makers in attendance. The seminar turn-outs were also quite small judging by the pictures. The number of people at them would have been considered a pathetically poor turn-out just a few years ago.

I know it's also your job to pump the shows Julius, but I really believe AVN has had it's day in this arena.

Danny, there is just no pleasing people Years ago the shows were full to overflowing with affiliate reps who got drunk on your dime, did you do more business then, because they were there?

The whole show scene has changed dramatically, as far as number of attendees. This goes for all shows not just this one. As I have said before, its quality vs quantity now.

Yes, I do pump the shows, all of them. We go in with a positive attitude, we are there to do business and Hone had a great show

AVN tried a new concept with this one, it has merit, watch other shows pick up the same concept and run with it.

Welcome to the new reality of Adult webmaster shows.

[DannyCox]

Originally Posted by JFK

Years ago the shows were full to overflowing with affiliate reps who got drunk on your dime, did you do more business then, because they were there?

Actually, yes. I did quite well when there were people there such as affiliate reps who could make deals and decisions. we even used to do suite partis nd invite the people we wanted to work with. Yes, they got drunk, but we got business out of it.

But, i really don't want to see the Porn Stars party (I'm not a silly FanBoy), or have a bunch of other areas of Adult that have nothing really to do with on-line. It used to be "our" show and dealt with "our" needs. AVN thinks all "Porn" is generic and that Videos are no different than On-line. The way their shows have changed over time show that.

I honestly don't believe they want any of "us" there any more. They couldn't make it on-line, and they've basically given up on our needs. I think you'll be seeing less and less Internet peple at those shows. they'll save their dollars for shows that actually make sense to attend.

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by DannyCox

Actually, yes. I did quite well when there were people there such as affiliate reps who could make deals and decisions. we even used to do suite partis nd invite the people we wanted to work with. Yes, they got drunk, but we got business out of it.

But, i really don't want to see the Porn Stars party (I'm not a silly FanBoy), or have a bunch of other areas of Adult that have nothing really to do with on-line. It used to be "our" show and dealt with "our" needs. AVN thinks all "Porn" is generic and that Videos are no different than On-line. The way their shows have changed over time show that.

I honestly don't believe they want any of "us" there any more. They couldn't make it on-line, and they've basically given up on our needs. I think you'll be seeing less and less Internet peple at those shows. they'll save their dollars for shows that actually make sense to attend.

Much as I hate it, I think I have to agree with Danny's take on this. To some degree, the "web people," have always been treated as the "red headed step child."
I haven't seen much change in this over the years.

[RawAlex]

Originally Posted by JFK

AVN tried a new concept with this one, it has merit, watch other shows pick up the same concept and run with it.

Welcome to the new reality of Adult webmaster shows.

Actually, I see a whole bunch of stuff that has been done at other shows (particularly Cybernet), such as the "meet market" sort of deal (called corridor cruising, if I remember correctly) and Speed Meeting (which has been at other events, such as Qwebec Expo).

There is certainly a shift, but more than anything, it makes it look like AVN is returning back to it's "Valley Porn" roots and pretty much tossing the internet (and it's marketing) under the bus to get there.

From the pics, I think the theme for the show was "elbow room... we got it". I didn't see anything in the pics that I found particularly would attract me to the show.