Pimping smokes ! ! !

[miz_wright]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

I suppose you are right. Nicotine itself does not cause lung cancer, but it is a poison and can kill. But those who chew tobacco have elevated cancer rates as well with no smoke involved. However, I still have a problem with laymen selling pharma type products that have no test results, perhaps no tests at all. You can correct me if Blu has a lab that they have tested their product out for a few years. I understand they are made in China. That alone scares me. The jury is still out on what the effects are of pure nicotine delivered on a daily basis. I have no idea.

I would be pleased to hear your understanding of the benefits of these things, Liz.

I really don't mean this as a piss thread. I am just concerned, really

I understand your concerns. Unfortunately, I haven't got answers. Tobacco, smoked or no, has a number of other chemicals that it diffuses beyond nicotine, though, any number of which may be considered carcinogens. Then again, alcohol is a carcinogen. These days, the air itself is a toxin. The jury is still out on whether I will die from using Tupperware to warm up my lunch, too.

I don't mean to be glib, it's merely that my understanding of the concerns centered on smoking are a direct result of the by-products of the tobacco itself, not the nicotine. I don't know of any studies that have shown that use of nicotine delivery - be it gum, patch, or inhaler (which category Blu would fall into)- has demonstrated that nicotine, in and of itself is hazardous in relatively small doses.

If I drank liquid nicotine in bottles? Yeh, probably an issue.

[softball]

Originally Posted by LizAEBN

I understand your concerns. Unfortunately, I haven't got answers. Tobacco, smoked or no, has a number of other chemicals that it diffuses beyond nicotine, though, any number of which may be considered carcinogens. Then again, alcohol is a carcinogen. These days, the air itself is a toxin. The jury is still out on whether I will die from using Tupperware to warm up my lunch, too.

I don't mean to be glib, it's merely that my understanding of the concerns centered on smoking are a direct result of the by-products of the tobacco itself, not the nicotine. I don't know of any studies that have shown that use of nicotine delivery - be it gum, patch, or inhaler (which category Blu would fall into)- has demonstrated that nicotine, in and of itself is hazardous in relatively small doses.

If I drank liquid nicotine in bottles? Yeh, probably an issue.

So what due diligence has been done by the distributors of this product to offer assurances that it is pure nicotine or is not harmful either now, or down the road? That is the root of my concern.
I know the FDA is a fuck up from the get go. They allow Glucose/Fructose corn syrup in packaged foods that is 99 per cent probably the reason for the huge diabetes epidemic we are in the middle of and a whole lot of other crap. However, they do test a lot of stuff to keep producers sort of kind of honest. Has this product been through any kind of FDA approval process?
Again, it is just a concern I have over any kind of unproven anything that goes on or in to our bodies.
Yeah I drink. Yes I drive a car. I am not a major health nazi. Just concerned that the internet has opened a whole industry of world wide snake oil.

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by LizAEBN

I understand your concerns. Unfortunately, I haven't got answers. Tobacco, smoked or no, has a number of other chemicals that it diffuses beyond nicotine, though, any number of which may be considered carcinogens. Then again, alcohol is a carcinogen. These days, the air itself is a toxin. The jury is still out on whether I will die from using Tupperware to warm up my lunch, too.

I don't mean to be glib, it's merely that my understanding of the concerns centered on smoking are a direct result of the by-products of the tobacco itself, not the nicotine. I don't know of any studies that have shown that use of nicotine delivery - be it gum, patch, or inhaler (which category Blu would fall into)- has demonstrated that nicotine, in and of itself is hazardous in relatively small doses.

If I drank liquid nicotine in bottles? Yeh, probably an issue.

You guys sure do love to embrace liability, don't you?

[sunfunbill]

I signed up yesterday but have not gotten a password yet. When I try to do the "forgot password" thing it says my email is not found in the system. Does it take them a few days to get back to you??

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by sunfunbill

I signed up yesterday but have not gotten a password yet. When I try to do the "forgot password" thing it says my email is not found in the system. Does it take them a few days to get back to you??

Should be within a second. From the looks of it IT is doing some maint work on a few things. I would call April King on Monday and see if she can fish out the email for you.

[sunfunbill]

Thanks, I'll do that.

[sunfunbill]

Well I finally got an account but my traffic does not seem to care for them. Only 4 clicks in two days with the banners on 4 sites, WTF?