Think Cross Sales Werent a Big part of the Biz?

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

The only difference I think is that some programs got incredibly greed not against their affiliates but against the customers. Rather than just being satisified to shave 30% of the signups and pay 30% more per signup (marketing), they turned around and learned ways to much more income from every signup than they were paying out. So even as they swing the $100 per signup dicks around, they still had another $100 or more in their pockets from the signup, so it wasn't an issue.

But a few things have happened in short order that have changed things. The Brazzers "offshore" money issue with the feds in the US is not to my knowledge resolved but pretty much put everyone else on notice. The offshore Visa providers started getting hit with issues and fines because of excessive chargebacks, which made them less interested in playing the game. Finally, Visa outrightly changed the rules for cross sales, making them pretty much impossible to pull off. So there is no real simple way to make it work anymore, and the US government is looking very closely at the money coming in. It pretty much shuts things down.

I for one would be happy to get back to plenty of smaller programs with reasonably fresh content that actually want to get promoted, respect their affiliates, and pay a reasonable amount flat or percentage to make it all work out.

Eventually the wild west will always be tamed and then the real money can be made when all the lawlessness has been run out of town, tarred and feathered.

[TheEnforcer]

Originally Posted by Far-L

Eventually the wild west will always be tamed and then the real money can be made when all the lawlessness has been run out of town, tarred and feathered.

Will never truly happen. Look at Wall Street for example. No matter how tough they make the current bill there there will always be people on Wall St. looking for new and inventive ways to make an easy buck in a shady manner. You'll get a period where it's a lot tougher to do so but eventually a new way to grease the system will come about.

[Greg B]

Originally Posted by TheEnforcer

Will never truly happen. Look at Wall Street for example. No matter how tough they make the current bill there there will always be people on Wall St. looking for new and inventive ways to make an easy buck in a shady manner. You'll get a period where it's a lot tougher to do so but eventually a new way to grease the system will come about.

Not if there ain't no system to grease, which is what that news item I posted is all about. Wall Street is about to collapse. Get out of stocks now and get cash and gold.

[RawAlex]

Originally Posted by TheEnforcer

Will never truly happen. Look at Wall Street for example. No matter how tough they make the current bill there there will always be people on Wall St. looking for new and inventive ways to make an easy buck in a shady manner. You'll get a period where it's a lot tougher to do so but eventually a new way to grease the system will come about.

The difference is that the relatively honest ones survive, while the ones who are playing loose and fast with the rules fade away. Like it or not, the clients for this business talk, and the scammers never last. Yes, they make a pile of money in a short period of time, but it doesn't last. Some of them end up paying out the ass (and some in the ass, let's not forget Jim Schaffer, is he locked up at this point?)

there has been demand for porn for a long time, and there will be for a long time to come. The methods shift and change, but in the end, it all remains the same.