Does this cross the line?

[Toby]

Originally Posted by TheEnforcer

Would I go that route with a model? No, I wouldn't.

This isn't directed specifically at you, as several others have made similar statements in this discussion. But maybe you can explain this to me?

You consider that to be on the other side of a line you would not cross. But you have no problem with someone else, in this case DirtyD, crossing that same line.

[TheEnforcer]

Originally Posted by Toby

This isn't directed specifically at you, as several others have made similar statements in this discussion. But maybe you can explain this to me?

You consider that to be on the other side of a line you would not cross. But you have no problem with someone else, in this case DirtyD, crossing that same line.

That's real easy to explain. Just because I wouldn't do something doesn't automatically mean that I want to forbid others from doing it. That's the mentality of the religious right wing who hate porn and such. As long as both parties involved agreed to it and did so clear headed and knowing what was involved that's their business, not mine. Also, given some of the shit that happens in this industry this issue barely registers as things I am/would be concerned with. I'm happy to say I think she's foolish to do it. s for DirtyD, I can see why he would as I have no doubt it appeals to their customers and if all parties involved acted with full knowledge who am i to say he shouldn't do it just because I wouldn't? Unless someone shows something different it's just a business transaction between two parties who agreed to the terms and carried them out and nothing about it warrants the severe outrage it's getting. I'll save that for much larger issues.

I don't think freedom is limited to what I am comfortable with. Freedom often means seeing and dealing with things you wouldn't do yourself. FAR too many people see it the other way around. That, quite frankly, is a HUGE problem in this country and leads to a lot of shitty laws and crappy court rulings that lead to the protections and guarantees afforded by the constitution to be severely weakened.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by TheEnforcer

That's real easy to explain. Just because I wouldn't do something doesn't automatically mean that I want to forbid others from doing it. That's the mentality of the religious right wing who hate porn and such. As long as both parties involved agreed to it and did so clear headed and knowing what was involved that's their business, not mine. Also, given some of the shit that happens in this industry this issue barely registers as things I am/would be concerned with. I'm happy to say I think she's foolish to do it. s for DirtyD, I can see why he would as I have no doubt it appeals to their customers and if all parties involved acted with full knowledge who am i to say he shouldn't do it just because I wouldn't? Unless someone shows something different it's just a business transaction between two parties who agreed to the terms and carried them out and nothing about it warrants the severe outrage it's getting. I'll save that for much larger issues.

I don't think freedom is limited to what I am comfortable with. Freedom often means seeing and dealing with things you wouldn't do yourself. FAR too many people see it the other way around. That, quite frankly, is a HUGE problem in this country and leads to a lot of shitty laws and crappy court rulings that lead to the protections and guarantees afforded by the constitution to be severely weakened.

I don't think the outrage is all that severe, relative to many other things I've seen discussed re: this biz. This has merely stimulated a debate.

Also, unlike the religious right I don't think anyone here is suggesting it should be forbidden. I just find it beyond what is reasonable for the sake of making a buck.

MRock nailed it earlier when he said, "someones character is showing."

[softball]

Originally Posted by TheEnforcer

That's real easy to explain. Just because I wouldn't do something doesn't automatically mean that I want to forbid others from doing it. That's the mentality of the religious right wing who hate porn and such. As long as both parties involved agreed to it and did so clear headed and knowing what was involved that's their business, not mine.

I respectfully disagree. This argument is a slippery slope. Taken to its extreme, freedom can be dangerous...

Victim of cannibal agreed to be eaten
On the evening of March 9, the two men went up to the bedroom in Meiwes' rambling timbered farmhouse. Mr Brandes swallowed 20 sleeping tablets and half a bottle of schnapps before Meiwes cut off Brandes' penis, with his agreement, and fried it for both of them to eat.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003...ny.lukeharding

and both parties seemed to be clear headed before the schnapps and pills.....

[TheEnforcer]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

I respectfully disagree. This argument is a slippery slope. Taken to its extreme, freedom can be dangerous...



http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003...ny.lukeharding

and both parties seemed to be clear headed before the schnapps and pills.....

Sigh.. you compare cutting off your penis and eating it with someone else to getting a tattoo. Give me a break.

[softball]

Originally Posted by TheEnforcer

Sigh.. you compare cutting off your penis and eating it with someone else to getting a tattoo. Give me a break.

So, what you are saying then, is freedom has its limits, or did I misinterpret that.