Sasha Grey keynote speaker at AVN show

[Hell Puppy]

Buckwheat had it right.

Why the hell would I want to listen to a porn star TALK?

[miz_wright]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

Buckwheat had it right.

Why the hell would I want to listen to a porn star TALK?

Why wouldn't you?

Different perspectives are good, and while Sasha may not be everyone's cuppa, she is fairly intelligent.

I respect the hell out of you, but I think we do ourselves and our industry a disservice when we presume that because someone fucks on film they are incapable of having anything to contribute.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by LizAEBN

Different perspectives are good, and while Sasha may not be everyone's cuppa, she is fairly intelligent.

No argument there, she's definitely one of the more articulate performers in the industry.

But... I'm still having a hard time figuring out how her experience is going to translate to anything relevant to a group of online business people. She doesn't even have an Official Sasha Grey website.

[tony404]

Originally Posted by Toby

No argument there, she's definitely one of the more articulate performers in the industry.

But... I'm still having a hard time figuring out how her experience is going to translate to anything relevant to a group of online business people. She doesn't even have an Official Sasha Grey website.

Thank you especially in these hardtimes. I have no doubt she is a very smart girl that has done well for herself. But as a business person her opinion really means nothing to me. Also she isnt even a real web presence. They arent learning the web is adult not dvds or maybe they have dont want to bother with us anymore. Having her as the keynote is a good start. lol

[tony404]

Originally Posted by LizAEBN

Why wouldn't you?

Different perspectives are good, and while Sasha may not be everyone's cuppa, she is fairly intelligent.

I respect the hell out of you, but I think we do ourselves and our industry a disservice when we presume that because someone fucks on film they are incapable of having anything to contribute.

To be the keynote for a business convention sorry no.

[bluemoney]

Eye Candy

[miz_wright]

Originally Posted by Toby

No argument there, she's definitely one of the more articulate performers in the industry.

But... I'm still having a hard time figuring out how her experience is going to translate to anything relevant to a group of online business people. She doesn't even have an Official Sasha Grey website.

Originally Posted by tony404

Thank you especially in these hardtimes. I have no doubt she is a very smart girl that has done well for herself. But as a business person her opinion really means nothing to me. Also she isnt even a real web presence. They arent learning the web is adult not dvds or maybe they have dont want to bother with us anymore. Having her as the keynote is a good start. lol

Frankly, I think because she's not got her own agenda, I am a helluva lot more likely to listen to her than I am to someone flogging his own shit and swinging his dick 'cos he got lucky, once, and rode it.

Hello, box. I think I will step outside of you for a bit.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by LizAEBN

...I am a helluva lot more likely to listen to her than I am to someone flogging his own shit and swinging his dick 'cos he got lucky, once, and rode it...

Yeah, there's been more than one Keynote address I've skipped over the years 'cuz it was some swingin' dick whose drivel I didn't care to hear again.

If I were going to be at Internext I probably would attend just to hear WTF she had to say about the biz. Curiosty getting the better of the cat.

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by LizAEBN

Frankly, I think because she's not got her own agenda, I am a helluva lot more likely to listen to her than I am to someone flogging his own shit and swinging his dick 'cos he got lucky, once, and rode it.

Hello, box. I think I will step outside of you for a bit.

Is this a "girl power" thing?

I'd rather hear from an industry leader.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ

...I'd rather hear from an industry leader.

That depends entirely on which "industry leader". A great many of them got to where they are simply by being there first years ago and becoming an 800 lb. gorilla.

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by LizAEBN

Why wouldn't you?

Different perspectives are good, and while Sasha may not be everyone's cuppa, she is fairly intelligent.

I respect the hell out of you, but I think we do ourselves and our industry a disservice when we presume that because someone fucks on film they are incapable of having anything to contribute.

And in reality, you know I actually am pretty open minded and will listen to just about anyone and see what I can learn. At least until they prove themselves to be complete idiots, in which case I'm more likely just to make sure I'm not in their presence....ever... That's a fairly short but distinguished list.

But I think you'll see the overall perception is WTF is up with choosing her as keynote.

She's 21. She's been in the business 3 years. I had to look her up to see who she was, apparently her mainstream celebrity is one of the bands included their favorite porn chick to spank it to in a video. Oh, and a couple of shots on talk shows sensationalizing "teens in porn" when she was still 18-19. I guess she could talk about what it takes to win the AVN award for best 3 way.

Maybe she really is smart and we're all really underestimating her. It's still yet another highly questionable decision by AVN. The keynote doesn't target the fans, it targets business. Whether it be video, web or whatever, none of us are typically awestruck by talent.

[Hell Puppy]

I will turn around and argue the other side here and say AVN has no good choices for keynote.

We have NO true industry leaders. This industry doesn't work as an industry. We work as a collection of businesses all selling the same thing. We're cut throat though, there's NO cooperation even when it would be in everyone's best interest.

Many of our "successful" business people as has already been pointed out just were in right place at right time. Others just want to "big dick" tell you how much they've made and that it cant be done now. And the ones who actually know a little something and have some really good ideas are damned sure not going to get up in front of a room and tell you about them. See above, there's NO benefit for them to do so and a zillion reasons NOT to.