Are Trade Shows a thing of the past?

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Oh and Gonzo - i fully respect your opinions and realize that you were close with MJ and Cat. Cat is still writing for us as is tom hymes who I also hae the utmost respect for.

Obviosly I need to earn your trust - I hope I can do so in the future.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by avnchris

Oh and Gonzo - i fully respect your opinions and realize that you were close with MJ and Cat. Cat is still writing for us as is tom hymes who I also hae the utmost respect for.

Obviosly I need to earn your trust - I hope I can do so in the future.

Im easy Chris.
Return my call / ICQ / email when Im asking for details about a show that Im responsible for overseeing.

I really didnt know Monty that well but he was open and professional to me the entire time he was with your company. MJ being gone is a loss.

I dont know Tom very well either but I found him of the utmost level of professionalism when he moderated the panel I was on in Vegas. He was very prepared and talked to the issues. Rare. Ya scored on this readdition.

Kathee I have to admit I have known for several years and she should be writing for several tech and adult magazines as she is both knowledgeable and professional about any subject she takes on. You guys should pay her more and listen to her about repairing the mess the magazine is in as well as the website.

I cant remember when I went to AVNonline for any news.
Outside of my own sources my first stop is Xbiz- followed by Ynot and then when Im checking the ad rotation Ill see what the beermasters are doing at GFY.

Each of your fellow employees will tell you Ive never been an AVN ass kisser. Ive told them like it was straight up. Just like the conversations Ive had in the past year with Anne, Kristin and now Alec. We dont agree on every point but if someone asks in earnest Im going to be honest.

Being Southern Im just not much for the LA porn royalty show.
As we say down here... "Dont Sing It - Bring it!"

Every one of the show owners in that thread at GFY all agreed on ONE thing - its time for a change. However didnt really see much substance being discussed beyond that by anyone.

I dont have anything personal against you. I dont know you. But the business as reached a point where none of this is a joke and anyone that treats it as such will be joining KB on stage in a comedy routine. [I hear hes very good]

I challenge any of you to step up to the plate and "sell" us on why we should attend your show going forward.

2Live Crew isnt a draw. I know the guys that hired Dmoney and I dont think they intended the promo to be a show draw.

$300 for a ticket to sit at a resort hotel isnt either - its ego stroking.
Dont tell me how you guys do that to keep out the riff raff when every night I see the pool area lined with local hookers wearing a mysterious "talent" badge. They are HOOKERS. They arent shooting scenes they are selling ass.

And honestly Chris if im going to take a vacation - Im certainly not going to do it with the rest of the industry. I see enough of this all day - every day.

Lets be honest. The shows started out as an excuse for guys in this biz to go party and get some ass. I should know - at the time I used this excuse to get away from my 9-5 job where this was just a hobby. And it was awesome. Where else can you get that smashed and hang out with women that you used to jerk your dick to when you were a kid PLUS new eager fresh faces as well. It was like shooting fish in a barrel and some of the best times of my life. Everything had just started and I dressed in suit and hung out on the rim of the activity.

Theres a picture somewhere around here that my datacenter partners took of me with Nina Hartley,Porsche Lynn and Cristy Lake piled up on a couch. Back then web guys didnt mix well with the dvd stars. And one of the funniest times was in Miami turning down being filmed getting a blow job. I hadnt eaten but twice the time I was there becasue of the Cyebrerotica multiple free bars and this chick insisted that I be able to pop a massive load on cam.

I grew out of this as time went on and I realized that not only could I make a living out of this but I was pretty good at it too. However the shows never did grow out of it.

And now yall need to innovate as well as the rest of us.

[C H R I S 2.0]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Im easy Chris.
Return my call / ICQ / email when Im asking for details about a show that Im responsible for overseeing.

I really didnt know Monty that well but he was open and professional to me the entire time he was with your company. MJ being gone is a loss.

I dont know Tom very well either but I found him of the utmost level of professionalism when he moderated the panel I was on in Vegas. He was very prepared and talked to the issues. Rare. Ya scored on this readdition.

Kathee I have to admit I have known for several years and she should be writing for several tech and adult magazines as she is both knowledgeable and professional about any subject she takes on. You guys should pay her more and listen to her about repairing the mess the magazine is in as well as the website.

I cant remember when I went to AVNonline for any news.
Outside of my own sources my first stop is Xbiz- followed by Ynot and then when Im checking the ad rotation Ill see what the beermasters are doing at GFY.

Each of your fellow employees will tell you Ive never been an AVN ass kisser. Ive told them like it was straight up. Just like the conversations Ive had in the past year with Anne, Kristin and now Alec. We dont agree on every point but if someone asks in earnest Im going to be honest.

Being Southern Im just not much for the LA porn royalty show.
As we say down here... "Dont Sing It - Bring it!"

Every one of the show owners in that thread at GFY all agreed on ONE thing - its time for a change. However didnt really see much substance being discussed beyond that by anyone.

I dont have anything personal against you. I dont know you. But the business as reached a point where none of this is a joke and anyone that treats it as such will be joining KB on stage in a comedy routine. [I hear hes very good]

I challenge any of you to step up to the plate and "sell" us on why we should attend your show going forward.

2Live Crew isnt a draw. I know the guys that hired Dmoney and I dont think they intended the promo to be a show draw.

$300 for a ticket to sit at a resort hotel isnt either - its ego stroking.
Dont tell me how you guys do that to keep out the riff raff when every night I see the pool area lined with local hookers wearing a mysterious "talent" badge. They are HOOKERS. They arent shooting scenes they are selling ass.

And honestly Chris if im going to take a vacation - Im certainly not going to do it with the rest of the industry. I see enough of this all day - every day.

Lets be honest. The shows started out as an excuse for guys in this biz to go party and get some ass. I should know - at the time I used this excuse to get away from my 9-5 job where this was just a hobby. And it was awesome. Where else can you get that smashed and hang out with women that you used to jerk your dick to when you were a kid PLUS new eager fresh faces as well. It was like shooting fish in a barrel and some of the best times of my life. Everything had just started and I dressed in suit and hung out on the rim of the activity.

Theres a picture somewhere around here that my datacenter partners took of me with Nina Hartley,Porsche Lynn and Cristy Lake piled up on a couch. Back then web guys didnt mix well with the dvd stars. And one of the funniest times was in Miami turning down being filmed getting a blow job. I hadnt eaten but twice the time I was there becasue of the Cyebrerotica multiple free bars and this chick insisted that I be able to pop a massive load on cam.

I grew out of this as time went on and I realized that not only could I make a living out of this but I was pretty good at it too. However the shows never did grow out of it.

And now yall need to innovate as well as the rest of us.

I think this thread may actually get some results VS the one at the the zoo...

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Also Gonzo - let me tell you a few of the things we are doing to make the experience better for both attendees and sponsors:

1. Lowering Prices for Webmasters

2. Lowerng Sponsorship Prices by as much as 50%

3. Combining Vegas and AEE in ne mega week super show.. No Break

4. Lowering prices to encourage more suite parties /networking events

5. Not allowing OUTSIDE PARTIES - your not involved your not involved.

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I appreciate all feedbacjk... please leave here as it seems to be a more intelligent posting forum..

[miz_wright]

Originally Posted by avnchris

Also Gonzo - let me tell you a few of the things we are doing to make the experience better for both attendees and sponsors:

1. Lowering Prices for Webmasters

2. Lowerng Sponsorship Prices by as much as 50%

3. Combining Vegas and AEE in ne mega week super show.. No Break

4. Lowering prices to encourage more suite parties /networking events

5. Not allowing OUTSIDE PARTIES - your not involved your not involved.

6.



I appreciate all feedbacjk... please leave here as it seems to be a more intelligent posting forum..

Number (3) makes me hurt just thinking about it. I don't even see how that can work -- a lot of us do both shows, and that just insures I have to be in two places at one. As it stands now, for just I'next, I am generally trying to be in three places at once, just for webmasters. Anyone who say me in Florida saw me running from meeting to meeting and apologising for not being able to stop and chat. January is generally 3x as bad - and trying to work a booth at the same time?

... I don't see how that helps?

This year's Vegas show was brutal, already - checking out and moving to the Palms, working a booth all day, and then hustling ass to the Palms to start Show #2? I sounded like a tranny hooker on a bad day, and I was just getting to the show where I could speak to my clients.

Chris, you know I adore you, but trying to put the consumer show on at the same time a lot of us will need to be working with webmasters seems... Tough.

[Jim_Gunn]

Originally Posted by LizAEBN

Number (3) makes me hurt just thinking about it. I don't even see how that can work -- a lot of us do both shows, and that just insures I have to be in two places at one. As it stands now, for just I'next, I am generally trying to be in three places at once, just for webmasters. Anyone who say me in Florida saw me running from meeting to meeting and apologising for not being able to stop and chat. January is generally 3x as bad - and trying to work a booth at the same time?

... I don't see how that helps?

This year's Vegas show was brutal, already - checking out and moving to the Palms, working a booth all day, and then hustling ass to the Palms to start Show #2? I sounded like a tranny hooker on a bad day, and I was just getting to the show where I could speak to my clients.

Chris, you know I adore you, but trying to put the consumer show on at the same time a lot of us will need to be working with webmasters seems... Tough.

I am in full agreement with this. The AEE and Internext shows are both important to me and I want them to be consecutive, one after another, NOT running at the same time. I am not sure by AVNChris' wording what he meant exactly. The way it is now they are back to back with one day in between which is fine. If they are run at the same time like you guys did a few year ago, that will be a nightmare since we cannot be in two places at once.

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

I am in full agreement with this. The AEE and Internext shows are both important to me and I want them to be consecutive, one after another, NOT running at the same time. I am not sure by AVNChris' wording what he meant exactly. The way it is now they are back to back with one day in between which is fine. If they are run at the same time like you guys did a few year ago, that will be a nightmare since we cannot be in two places at once.

Thats is exactly what i meant