Are Trade Shows a thing of the past?

[Cleo]

I didn't get the incredibly loud 2 Live Crew pool music. It wasn't just that I don't care for Hip Hop. It was so loud that my teeth were vibrating. Talking, as in trying to network, was impossible. I don't know... maybe I've just gotten old but it seems like the music should be kept down to a level that allows people to talk to each other.

[gonzo]

I have always promoted the show on this board once I bought it.
Cybernet with its flaws has always been approachable - didnt matter if it was Fay or Jay they have always been reasonable.

Fay Sharp started this show out to be more about the business and less about the music. Granted the locations have been on the cheaper side but the shows in San Diego and Tampa were some of my best networking times.

Seminars were always stuffed full of people taking notes, taping and etc.

Theres usually something there to learn even if its not in a seminar room.
The show has attracted many program owners that do get it and spend a lot of one on one time with affiliates to forge a better working arrangement.

I said it before and was ignored so Ill say it again here so it doesnt get glossed over... you can see the difference in the philosophy of these shows before and after by reading.

You will have Jay out looking for the best topics for a panel and the right people to get on them, while you have Alec trolling for the play list for the music by the pool and all Ive seen out of Chris is "I love you man ... we will see you in the same places at the same time in 2010 ... wanna free ticket?."

In the past Kathee Brewer and MJ were repairing these seminars like with the NATS demo. They both understand this business tried their best. Both are no longer with the company and now as Mike said we have Hirsch wanting to telling us how to build websites. Stick to hiring geniuses like AlienQ - your made for each other.

Now Alec pretty much plays for a grandstand like now where hes inviting Fishbien to come into a public dialog with him. Like was said to me earlier - if he really wanted to get it done they would already be working it out in private.

The free market will sort all of this out soon enough. Right now the main event for many of these shows has been the Porn Poker tour which is now looking for a better ROI. I can recall several nights in Miami in the past when thats the only thing that ws going on.

How will they attract people there coming to hear 2LiveCrew with nothing to do in the evenings?

We did a bit on clusterfuck theater where we called and goofed on the staff of the hotel. they told us that there was a lottery for employees to work there during Internext. Im wondering if that will hold true for next year?

[C H R I S 2.0]

For anyone who thinks that adult trade shows are done- I suggest you attend Adult Novelty Expo along with several other very populas shows.We had over 150 exhibtiors at ANE.

AEE is still going strong, albeit not as strong as it has been in the past - but still strong.

Before you start name calling I suggest you look within at your own business to see what you can do to improve- as I will be doing the same.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by avnchris

For anyone who thinks that adult trade shows are done- I suggest you attend Adult Novelty Expo along with several other very populas shows.We had over 150 exhibtiors at ANE.

AEE is still going strong, albeit not as strong as it has been in the past - but still strong.

Before you start name calling I suggest you look within at your own business to see what you can do to improve- as I will be doing the same.

Come on Chris.
Save that shit for GFY.

Ive been at the past 5 AEE shows. Slowly but surely you guys have allowed teeth whitening booths, donate for a prayer and people just selling shit to take over at least a 3rd of the back portion of the hall.

The Palms for Internext is a shit hole.

I hear they treat the locals better than they treat us. Several people were bumped the first night of the first year down the strip. And hotel management's attitude was FUCK you. Im not sure how I avoided the bump when I saw the Mighty 12clicks sent down the road much to his disdain.

I wouldnt be surprised if many people stayed elsewhere this year in order to make the trip and just hung out at the bar and skipped a badge.

Your missing the point - the name calling across the boards is because the input you get seems to fall on deaf ears. Everyone is frustrated.

The business as a whole wants these things to improve. They must improve for the better of us all.

Yet wheres the Summer show going to be in 2010?

[C H R I S 2.0]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Come on Chris.
Save that shit for GFY.

Ive been at the past 5 AEE shows. Slowly but surely you guys have allowed teeth whitening booths, donate for a prayer and people just selling shit to take over at least a 3rd of the back portion of the hall.

The Palms for Internext is a shit hole.

I hear they treat the locals better than they treat us. Several people were bumped the first night of the first year down the strip. And hotel management's attitude was FUCK you. Im not sure how I avoided the bump when I saw the Mighty 12clicks sent down the road much to his disdain.

I wouldnt be surprised if many people stayed elsewhere this year in order to make the trip and just hung out at the bar and skipped a badge.

Your missing the point - the name calling across the boards is because the input you get seems to fall on deaf ears. Everyone is frustrated.

The business as a whole wants these things to improve. They must improve for the better of us all.

Yet wheres the Summer show going to be in 2010?

Thanks for actually speaking to me like a person.... much appreciated!!

Vegas will be at the Palms - Summer will most likely be at the westin again because of contracts...
personally I would like to take the show to Cancun...

[Toby]

Originally Posted by avnchris

...personally I would like to take the show to Cancun...

Why? If you're looking to increase attendance of rank and file webmasters, moving the show to a resort location outside the US isn't conducive to that goal. If program owners, billing companies and other vendors want a B2B show in Cancun or similar that should be a separate event.

First and foremost, before anything else will make any significant difference both shows need to be moved to more affordable venues. I'm not just talking about the hotel room prices, but all of the other ammenities too. I don't mind spending some coin for a nice meal a couple of nights while at a show, but for other meals I want something nearby or on site that is affordable but not fast food.

[Cleo]

Originally Posted by Toby

for other meals I want something nearby or on site that is affordable but not fast food.

We were rather shocked when we were charged $2 for about 10 peanuts but not as shocked as the $45+ bill for a latte, water and pastry.

[donnylong]

Trade Shows = whore, hookers, beer and whores, hookers and beer

[Cleo]

Originally Posted by donnylong

Trade Shows = whore, hookers, beer and whores, hookers and beer

And there is the problem.

Oddly I have no interest in hookers, whores or beer.