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[DannyCox]

We stopped going to shows years ago as neither Carol or I are into the parties. It seemed the shows became about the parties with everything else being secondary. It was a bit difficult to do business with people who were drunk all the time and only seemed to care about the parties!

We're talking about hitting a couple of shows to see how they are these days. The problem is...I don't know anybody anymore!

[JFK]

Originally Posted by DannyCox

We stopped going to shows years ago as neither Carol or I are into the parties. It seemed the shows became about the parties with everything else being secondary. It was a bit difficult to do business with people who were drunk all the time and only seemed to care about the parties!

We're talking about hitting a couple of shows to see how they are these days. The problem is...I don't know anybody anymore!

Danny, not knowing anyone could be a good thing Fresh ideas

[Toby]

Originally Posted by JFK

Danny, not knowing anyone could be a good thing Fresh ideas

And all your old jokes will be fresh material again.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by DannyCox

We stopped going to shows years ago as neither Carol or I are into the parties. It seemed the shows became about the parties with everything else being secondary. It was a bit difficult to do business with people who were drunk all the time and only seemed to care about the parties!

We're talking about hitting a couple of shows to see how they are these days. The problem is...I don't know anybody anymore!

In all sincerity danny... Im considering skipping all the B2B shows this year.
Vegas ROI was abysmal at best and expensive as fuck.

[softball]

Originally Posted by gonzo

In all sincerity danny... Im considering skipping all the B2B shows this year.
Vegas ROI was abysmal at best and expensive as fuck.

see my rant.....

[Hell Puppy]

I'll go to another show this year if I have something I need to accomplish that needs me to be face to face with a few people. That's getting even more rare than normal for me. I tend to do my own thing, show it to no one and be as self sufficient as possible.

Either that or someone puts a show someplace I wanna go during a time I'm in mood to mix business and pleasure.

The Atlanta Forum is a no brainer for me since that's backyard and Natnet.

Beyond that, dunno, not much out there screaming out to me. Would love to see a show in Tampa, Nawlins or maybe someplace midwest or Denver.

[connor]

Originally Posted by DannyCox

We stopped going to shows years ago as neither Carol or I are into the parties. It seemed the shows became about the parties with everything else being secondary. It was a bit difficult to do business with people who were drunk all the time and only seemed to care about the parties!

We're talking about hitting a couple of shows to see how they are these days. The problem is...I don't know anybody anymore!

Hey Danny -

I am pretty sure that you and Carol used to be big supporters of Cybernet Expo back when Fay owned the show. I know you guys were at IA2000 as well, and to be honest... I have very fond memories of those early days.

We'd absolutely LOVE to have you two at Cybernet Expo. Fay doesn't own the show anymore, YNOT does, but I think you'll find that although we do have a lot of very fun parties in the evenings, the days are 100% business. It's a smaller show, like it always has been, but there will be a good sized crowd still ... and I'm VERY proud of the lineup of panels and classes this year.

Take a look at the site, and please feel free to hit be up if you want to talk about anything. connor at ynot dot com.

Since YNOT took over that show, we've been shouting from the highest rooftops about ROI and business. We've pretty much been alone in focusing first on business and education, parties second... not as glamorous a message, but somehow I have a feeling that others will be following our lead on 2010.

Parties are a great way to unwind in the evenings, and do a little extra networking... but I completely agree, there has to be ROI for attendees and sponsors first and foremost.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by connor

Hey Danny -

I am pretty sure that you and Carol used to be big supporters of Cybernet Expo back when Fay owned the show. I know you guys were at IA2000 as well, and to be honest... I have very fond memories of those early days.

We'd absolutely LOVE to have you two at Cybernet Expo. Fay doesn't own the show anymore, YNOT does, but I think you'll find that although we do have a lot of very fun parties in the evenings, the days are 100% business. It's a smaller show, like it always has been, but there will be a good sized crowd still ... and I'm VERY proud of the lineup of panels and classes this year.

Take a look at the site, and please feel free to hit be up if you want to talk about anything. connor at ynot dot com.

Since YNOT took over that show, we've been shouting from the highest rooftops about ROI and business. We've pretty much been alone in focusing first on business and education, parties second... not as glamorous a message, but somehow I have a feeling that others will be following our lead on 2010.

Parties are a great way to unwind in the evenings, and do a little extra networking... but I completely agree, there has to be ROI for attendees and sponsors first and foremost.

I think the parties last year were some of the best Ive ever attended at a show. Fuck I went to a DMoney party even and it was one of the highlights of the show.

[connor]

Originally Posted by gonzo

I think the parties last year were some of the best Ive ever attended at a show. Fuck I went to a DMoney party even and it was one of the highlights of the show.

Thanks man, and yeah they were pretty fun. But it was kept to the evenings, with business in the day. That's the tricky part in delivering this message... I don't mean to suggest in ANY way that the parties at Cybernet are second to anyone, but from the POV of the show organizers, our first concern is making sure there's business and education going on in the daytime. Hopefully that was the case for you last year as well.

We added the "Intensive Training" classes to this year's lineup, and also added some new workshops on producing content. Dave Cummings will be teaching a class on shooting and producing adult videos, and Spannow and Belinda will be doing a live photo shoot with Emily Saint. Also an increased focus on organic traffic generation, buying traffic, social networking, etc.

Please bookmark this thread for when people are copying us in 2010 so we can point back to it! Haha.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by connor

Thanks man, and yeah they were pretty fun. But it was kept to the evenings, with business in the day. That's the tricky part in delivering this message... I don't mean to suggest in ANY way that the parties at Cybernet are second to anyone, but from the POV of the show organizers, our first concern is making sure there's business and education going on in the daytime. Hopefully that was the case for you last year as well.

We added the "Intensive Training" classes to this year's lineup, and also added some new workshops on producing content. Dave Cummings will be teaching a class on shooting and producing adult videos, and Spannow and Belinda will be doing a live photo shoot with Emily Saint. Also an increased focus on organic traffic generation, buying traffic, social networking, etc.

Please bookmark this thread for when people are copying us in 2010 so we can point back to it! Haha.

You arent going to have a debate with preacher Donnie?

[connor]

Originally Posted by gonzo

You arent going to have a debate with preacher Donnie?

You mean that dude from Chico? If you've ever been to Chico, you'd know why he was that way.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by connor

You mean that dude from Chico? If you've ever been to Chico, you'd know why he was that way.

I figured it was becasue you were a fag that wore white socks with boots.... not that there is anything wrong with that!

[DannyCox]

Originally Posted by connor

I am pretty sure that you and Carol used to be big supporters of Cybernet Expo back when Fay owned the show. I know you guys were at IA2000 as well, and to be honest... I have very fond memories of those early days.

Yep, we used to sponsor the show for Faye in the beginning, and helped out quite a bit, even when it was AdultDex then xWebExpo! Our first show was the very first IA2000 one where they allowed us strange Internet people in to join all the Phone Sex guys! I think there was 50 of us total, all hanging out in the hotel bar

I've always enjoyed the CybernetExpo shows as I prefer the smaller more intimate events. In the early days the IA2000 then AVN shows were fun, with a lot of great networking. Then the "big boys" all had to start waving their cocks around and playing who has the biggest dick when it cames to parties, and that's all that events seemed to turn into...a place to party and nothing else. We decided to just stay away.

Part of our problem with traveling is that my mother has been very ill these past 6 years, and we had no one else to watch our young son. Not even for just a few days. But we do hope to get out and start networking again. In this economy, my retirement plans have been a little delayed and I actually have to do work again!

[connor]

Originally Posted by DannyCox

Yep, we used to sponsor the show for Faye in the beginning, and helped out quite a bit, even when it was AdultDex then xWebExpo! Our first show was the very first IA2000 one where they allowed us strange Internet people in to join all the Phone Sex guys! I think there was 50 of us total, all hanging out in the hotel bar

I've always enjoyed the CybernetExpo shows as I prefer the smaller more intimate events. In the early days the IA2000 then AVN shows were fun, with a lot of great networking. Then the "big boys" all had to start waving their cocks around and playing who has the biggest dick when it cames to parties, and that's all that events seemed to turn into...a place to party and nothing else. We decided to just stay away.

Part of our problem with traveling is that my mother has been very ill these past 6 years, and we had no one else to watch our young son. Not even for just a few days. But we do hope to get out and start networking again. In this economy, my retirement plans have been a little delayed and I actually have to do work again!

My first IA2000 was Orlando, not sure if that's the one you mean, but my experience was exactly what you described. I forget the name of the hotel on I-Drive, the Clarion maybe?, but there was a little bar area in the lobby and we all hung out there most of the time. In the exhibit area, the phone sex guys were looking at us with, "You're the bastards who killed our business!" lol Was that the same year the Fabulous Thunderbirds played?

And yup... I definitely remember the path that shows took from that point forward. Money was so easy to make back then it was absurd, so the shows were elaborate, way too much was spent on booths and parties, etc. But still... some good times too. Wish I could do it one more time.

Totally get the travel issue... I have a nine year old and if not for his mother, I'd be in a similar situation with travel. Maybe we'll have a chance to get you guys out to SF in 2010?

[DannyCox]

Originally Posted by connor

My first IA2000 was Orlando, not sure if that's the one you mean, but my experience was exactly what you described. I forget the name of the hotel on I-Drive, the Clarion maybe?, but there was a little bar area in the lobby and we all hung out there most of the time. In the exhibit area, the phone sex guys were looking at us with, "You're the bastards who killed our business!" lol Was that the same year the Fabulous Thunderbirds played?

Yes, it was the Clarion on International Drive. It was the second Orlando show when the Fabulous Thunderbirds played. The first show there really had nothing going on, which is why we all hung out in the lobby bar and really networked. Many of the future "Big Boys" got there start right there at that first show.

That first year, there wasn't a single booth set up on the floor for the Adult Internet, it was all Phone Sex stuff, and pretty boring. I still have a vivid memory of Lensman walking around looking lost most of the time and trying to learn this newfangled Internet thing