fellow georgia people

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Originally Posted by 12ClicksMichele

And let me ask you this.... why do care so much? If your not into tattoos don't get one. You don't want to work with tattooed models then don't. There are a hell of a lot of girls out there without tattoos.

And let me ask you this.... why do care so much?

Answering a question with a question doesn't cut it. It means you have no answer and the bullet has now officially entered your foot. I keep answering you, and you do your pr 101 first lesson bullshit. I care when a girl shows up, invarialbly lying about just a "little" tattoo that is, of course always hidden in her promo shit, and it costs me time and money to fix it. Why do they always hide them? Because they now photographers hate them. So, answer the freeking question or move on, because the silence is more eloquent than the bullshit.

[Hell Puppy]

nice thread jack....

[softball]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

nice thread jack....

It was, but the question was answered and now the thread has taken a twist and turn like any conversation. Unlikely Miss 12clicksmichelle will respond. The 12 clicks bunch including Ron are famous for drive by drivel and moving on. Wait and see if she answers....ever. Every good convo diverges with a little JD or controversy. You know that.

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

It was, but the question was answered and now the thread has taken a twist and turn like any conversation. Unlikely Miss 12clicksmichelle will respond. The 12 clicks bunch including Ron are famous for drive by drivel and moving on. Wait and see if she answers....ever. Every good convo diverges with a little JD or controversy. You know that.

You've always had an interesting way of starting conversation.

And taking on both Michelle and Liz at this point....well, if you get your ass kicked by those two, I dont know if that's a really a loss because you might enjoy it.

[softball]

Originally Posted by hell puppy

you've always had an interesting way of starting conversation.

and taking on both michelle and liz at this point....well, if you get your ass kicked by those two, i dont know if that's a really a loss because you might enjoy it.

lol

[12ClicksMichele]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Answering a question with a question doesn't cut it. It means you have no answer and the bullet has now officially entered your foot. I keep answering you, and you do your pr 101 first lesson bullshit. I care when a girl shows up, invarialbly lying about just a "little" tattoo that is, of course always hidden in her promo shit, and it costs me time and money to fix it. Why do they always hide them? Because they now photographers hate them. So, answer the freeking question or move on, because the silence is more eloquent than the bullshit.

Maybe you didn't see the post preceding the question you want to focus on

To get a tattoo because you see a celebrity with a tattoo or all your friends get a certain tattoo is following a trend or what the current trend. My point is there are plenty of people that get tattoos because it holds a much deeper meaning for them. When I started getting tattooed it was no where near as popular with females as it is today. All of my tattoos have a very deep meaning for me as they are for most of the people I know who are into tattooing. For example on my left arm I have flowers, doves and a stained glass window with a purple ribbon for pancreatic cancer and my mothers name in her handwriting. I got this tattoo in the last year of my mothers life. The flowers are some of her favorite and the doves also represent my mothers spirit. I chose to get the tattoo while my mother was still alive because it was in celebration of her life and how bravely she faced fighting pancreatic cancer and how until her last days she lived her life to the fullest. It was also very therapeutic experience for me to help me deal with my anger and grief over the situation. All of my tattoos have great meaning for me. My work also has the added meaning that my best friend is my tattoo artist, she is amazingly talented and I am honored to have her work on my body. Some of my work is easily visible and some of it isn't. Bottom line I got my work because it means something to me. I am very proud of the artwork I have on my body but I also don't feel the need to show it to everyone.

If a model lies to you about having ink I can understand why that would upset you. But again it is your choice whether or not to use them.

[softball]

Originally Posted by 12ClicksMichele

Maybe you didn't see the post preceding the question you want to focus on

If a model lies to you about having ink I can understand why that would upset you. But again it is your choice whether or not to use them.

My bad, I missed your explanation of your totems. As far as the models, when they show up, its too late. The shoot is booked. The facilitities are paid for, and I am stuck with another freeking pussy tat or something hidden under the hairline, and that all costs money. If everyone is so proud of these things, why are they hidden? I, for one, am happy to see this fashion waning.

[12ClicksMichele]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

My bad, I missed your explanation of your totems. As far as the models, when they show up, its too late. The shoot is booked. The facilitities are paid for, and I am stuck with another freeking pussy tat or something hidden under the hairline, and that all costs money. If everyone is so proud of these things, why are they hidden? I, for one, am happy to see this fashion waning.

I have art work that is easily visible and some that isn't. I have a piece on my hip that was placed there because it fit well for that space and the lines of my body. I get my artwork for me so I don't really care if its visible all the time.
I agree with you that the "fashion" fad of tattoos will fade. But the people that get tattooed because they believe in it as an art form, because their work means something to them and is a form of expression will always be there. And I also believe that as it becomes more accepted in society that people that may have held back from getting tattooed because of work or family will start getting tattooed in larger numbers.
I will also say this, I have been involved in the tattoo culture since I was 17 and have never regretted any of the work I have gotten done. But I have also seen people that have taken it too far IMHO. Too me there is a difference between modification and mutilation. Where I draw the line is different from where other people draw the line. And I do find it stupid when people get artwork on a whim or choose a subject matter that is not meaningful. Just because something is your favorite thing this year does not mean it will be your favorite 5 years from now. I also cringe when people say "but it only cost me $$$" When marking your body permanently you should definitely do your research and go to a recommended artist even if it does cost a little more.