ASACP is a Front Organization for Pornographers

DannyCox · 03-31-2009

I remember way back when Helmy was running ASACP and it still stood for "Adult Sites Against Child Pornography". He would link to his page from ASACP, and what was one of the first thing you saw?? A banner link for seventeen.nl!! We called him on that, and on the hypocrisy of running something like ASACP and promoting sites that show underage sex. His response?? "Well, it's legal in the Netherlands".

They used to also publish the number of sites they supposedly reported on an ongoing basis. Including reporting to the RCMP in Canada for suspected Canadian Pedophiles. The funny thing is the guy who was heading up that division at the time was a cousin of mine! He had never even heard of ASACP!

Since then, just the mention of ASACP has left a sour taste in my mouth.

gonzo · 03-31-2009

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Originally Posted by DannyCox

I remember way back when Helmy was running ASACP and it still stood for "Adult Sites Against Child Pornography". He would link to his page from ASACP, and what was one of the first thing you saw?? A banner link for seventeen.nl!! We called him on that, and on the hypocrisy of running something like ASACP and promoting sites that show underage sex. His response?? "Well, it's legal in the Netherlands".

They used to also publish the number of sites they supposedly reported on an ongoing basis. Including reporting to the RCMP in Canada for suspected Canadian Pedophiles. The funny thing is the guy who was heading up that division at the time was a cousin of mine! He had never even heard of ASACP!

Since then, just the mention of ASACP has left a sour taste in my mouth.

Guess the MIM guy just noticed this page...

http://asacp.org/page.php?content=sponsors

gonzo · 03-31-2009

Morality in Media President Robert Peters is at it again, denouncing the evils of adult entertainment and targeting an unlikely organization: the Association of Sites Advocating Child Protection (ASACP).
In a recent 24-page missive entitled "'Adult Industry' Is No Friend of Children or the Family, Despite ASACP Effort to Curb Child Abuse and Label Smut," Peters seeks to minimize the great work done by ASACP to protect children and its proactive response to Congressional demands that the adult industry self-regulate in the form of the Restricted To Adults (RTA) website label.

Peters goes to great lengths in an effort to concoct an association between the legitimate adult entertainment industry and the heinous crime of child sexual abuse, often referring to "pornography" (a legal, constitutionally protected form of expression) as "obscenity" — a term denoting illegal materials — and inferring that there is no distinction between legal materials and illegal imagery depicting children in sexually explicit situations.

Questioning the credibility of the industry at all levels and comparing ASACP to the mafia, Peters neglects to mention that ASACP is likely responsible for more actual CP site closures than any other NGO — all while drawing questionable statistical references and mischaracterizations into the mix.

Socially aberrant behavior is everyone's concern when it hurts children and Peters seems to miss the fact that tens of thousands of people employed in this industry, many of whom have families of their own, do indeed care about child abuse and find repugnant the notion of it being part of their professional lives.

The fact that a child molester also owns legal adult pornography isn't necessarily a cause-and-effect relationship anymore than is the fact that a very large percentage of pedophiles are active members of their church and often involved in youth ministries, 'troubled teen' counseling, and the like. Does this mean that religion or community service inevitably leads to child molestation? According to Peters' logic, the answer would be "yes."

Peters also cites the relatively low penetration of RTA as evidence that adult industry self-regulation is inadequate and calls into question the naming of David Ogden as the new Deputy U.S. Attorney General, given Ogden's support of free speech rights.

http://www.xbiz.com/news/106579

03-31-2009	#1
DannyCox I like cheese Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Montreal, QC, CA Posts: 1,185	Re: ASACP is a Front Organization for Pornographers I remember way back when Helmy was running ASACP and it still stood for "Adult Sites Against Child Pornography". He would link to his page from ASACP, and what was one of the first thing you saw?? A banner link for seventeen.nl!! We called him on that, and on the hypocrisy of running something like ASACP and promoting sites that show underage sex. His response?? "Well, it's legal in the Netherlands". They used to also publish the number of sites they supposedly reported on an ongoing basis. Including reporting to the RCMP in Canada for suspected Canadian Pedophiles. The funny thing is the guy who was heading up that division at the time was a cousin of mine! He had never even heard of ASACP! Since then, just the mention of ASACP has left a sour taste in my mouth. __________________ iAmateurs Network Amateur Niche Affiliate Programs

03-31-2009	#3
gonzo Fat Fucking Nobody Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Atlanta,Ga. Posts: 17,795 Blog Entries: 11	Re: ASACP is a Front Organization for Pornographers Morality in Media President Robert Peters is at it again, denouncing the evils of adult entertainment and targeting an unlikely organization: the Association of Sites Advocating Child Protection (ASACP). In a recent 24-page missive entitled "'Adult Industry' Is No Friend of Children or the Family, Despite ASACP Effort to Curb Child Abuse and Label Smut," Peters seeks to minimize the great work done by ASACP to protect children and its proactive response to Congressional demands that the adult industry self-regulate in the form of the Restricted To Adults (RTA) website label. Peters goes to great lengths in an effort to concoct an association between the legitimate adult entertainment industry and the heinous crime of child sexual abuse, often referring to "pornography" (a legal, constitutionally protected form of expression) as "obscenity" — a term denoting illegal materials — and inferring that there is no distinction between legal materials and illegal imagery depicting children in sexually explicit situations. Questioning the credibility of the industry at all levels and comparing ASACP to the mafia, Peters neglects to mention that ASACP is likely responsible for more actual CP site closures than any other NGO — all while drawing questionable statistical references and mischaracterizations into the mix. Socially aberrant behavior is everyone's concern when it hurts children and Peters seems to miss the fact that tens of thousands of people employed in this industry, many of whom have families of their own, do indeed care about child abuse and find repugnant the notion of it being part of their professional lives. The fact that a child molester also owns legal adult pornography isn't necessarily a cause-and-effect relationship anymore than is the fact that a very large percentage of pedophiles are active members of their church and often involved in youth ministries, 'troubled teen' counseling, and the like. Does this mean that religion or community service inevitably leads to child molestation? According to Peters' logic, the answer would be "yes." Peters also cites the relatively low penetration of RTA as evidence that adult industry self-regulation is inadequate and calls into question the naming of David Ogden as the new Deputy U.S. Attorney General, given Ogden's support of free speech rights. http://www.xbiz.com/news/106579 __________________ We are putting the bastards of this world on notice; greed and corruption will always be met with "a voice made of ink and rage." "Never try and be like anyone else" - Hunter S. Thompson "The truth is the truth no matter how you try and package a lie" - Shellee Hale

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