So... Epoch terminated some Accounts with 24 hour notice

[bluemoney]

Checking a few sites join pages I've found this

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[Hell Puppy]

Hard to say what's being done in private between processor and their clients.

Logic dictates that it is in a processors best interest to keep volume, but prune problems.

I will say that again at the show, people were being much more selective about whose action they took. And I heard a lot of people naming names of companies they thought were bad for the business.

Again, Adult Friend Finder being the big one. And I agree with that. If you're doing business with them, you're part of the problem.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

Hard to say what's being done in private between processor and their clients.

Logic dictates that it is in a processors best interest to keep volume, but prune problems.

I will say that again at the show, people were being much more selective about whose action they took. And I heard a lot of people naming names of companies they thought were bad for the business.

Again, Adult Friend Finder being the big one. And I agree with that. If you're doing business with them, you're part of the problem.

A tip of the hat for Steve Lightspeed saying the same thing in public.

[LAJ]

Originally Posted by gonzo

A tip of the hat for Steve Lightspeed saying the same thing in public.

Steve has balls... wish I had been at his seminar...

[softball]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

Hard to say what's being done in private between processor and their clients.

Logic dictates that it is in a processors best interest to keep volume, but prune problems.

I will say that again at the show, people were being much more selective about whose action they took. And I heard a lot of people naming names of companies they thought were bad for the business.

Again, Adult Friend Finder being the big one. And I agree with that. If you're doing business with them, you're part of the problem.

I am not in the same business as most of you guys, but this business has been going full steam for about a decade now, and I have survived it all, and that is about enough time to make some observations on the industry....if you can call it that.
There are scammers that come and go. They go because a:they are smart enough to take the money and run or b: they crash and burn and have put it up their nose.

There are the guys who just go from scam to scam and do well. I think that is what we are discussing here. They don't give a fff what you or I think. They have no conscience but make a lot of money. In the straight world, Madoff comes to mind. These guys will be whatever the next generation of AFF or Tubes becomes. They are prolly working on that at the moment.

There are the scammers who are not really bright, saved a few pennies tried to make the move to respectability, but could not....SON and are scratching a living doing what they really don't want to do....porn. The Joe Kennedy's of porn. Like some unnamed previous owners of this board.

I have no respect for any of the above. I have said often, anyone can get rich breaking the rules. Making a living with a clear conscience is much harder.

Just another rant from left field.