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Old 12-06-2008   #1
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Default Re: What Has The Free Speech Coalition Been Up To Lately

I support the FSC and proud to do so.

I appreciate their efforts as the Board consists entirely of unpaid industry volunteers.

Their hearts are in the right place.

Haters with no real alternatives do nobody any good.

EMA, EFF, ACLU and many other First Amendment groups and trade associations are fine organizations; but, their agendas are not always in sync with what is best for the Adult Entertainment Industry as they are focused on different interest groups.

Be smart with your time and funds and do what you think is best for you.

Just don't do nothing but whine..

The truth is some people beat up on the FSC because they are too cheap and lazy to donate time or money and want to justify their lack support.

Given the legal climate, 2257 Regs, FCC Regs, state laws, etc., in the USA, we will all either fly together or perish together......

Sad; but, true.

When considering the relative low amount spent on legal expenses this last year, the FSC gets a huge bang for its buck.

First, many attorneys donate their time or discount their cost of services to the FSC because they know the publicity they get from the cases will be significant.

Moreover, during the past year, the industry has been in a lull awaiting the new 2257 regs. Therefore, legal expenses have been lower than in past years when they were fighting the 2257s, XXX-tld, and the Utah/Michigan Canspam Acts.

When the new regs are published, I'm confident that the FSC will take appropriate action and we will again see an increase in legal expenses.

The goal has always been longterm: to win the war on censorship at the national level.

The funds may not be spent as you would like them to be spent; but, that does not constitute mismanagement.

As I recall, the Board determines how the funds are to be spent and reviews the budget that is proposed by the ED and financials that are prepared by an independent outside accounting firm. The Board then makes any changes in its' priorities in the proposed budget it feels are appropriate.

If you want to change how the money is spent, I suggest that you run for the Board.

The Executive Director is not a member of the Board and doesn't vote on agenda items so don't blame her for doing her job.

Over the past 6 years, I have known Bill Lyon, Kat Sunlove, Michelle Freridge and Diane Duke as EDs of the FSC. I can truthfully say that I feel there has been an improvement over time in the abilities of the ED to move the FSC forward.

I should believe you because you received an email from some anonymous "insider" who was in the know......but, is yet to be revealled. (Deep Throat, maybe).

You are entitled to your opinion.
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Old 12-06-2008   #2
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Default Re: What Has The Free Speech Coalition Been Up To Lately

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I support the FSC and proud to do so.

I appreciate their efforts as the Board consists entirely of unpaid industry volunteers.

Their hearts are in the right place.

Haters with no real alternatives do nobody any good.

EMA, EFF, ACLU and many other First Amendment groups and trade associations are fine organizations; but, their agendas are not always in sync with what is best for the Adult Entertainment Industry as they are focused on different interest groups.

Be smart with your time and funds and do what you think is best for you.

Just don't do nothing but whine..

The truth is some people beat up on the FSC because they are too cheap and lazy to donate time or money and want to justify their lack support.

Given the legal climate, 2257 Regs, FCC Regs, state laws, etc., in the USA, we will all either fly together or perish together......

Sad; but, true.

When considering the relative low amount spent on legal expenses this last year, the FSC gets a huge bang for its buck.

First, many attorneys donate their time or discount their cost of services to the FSC because they know the publicity they get from the cases will be significant.

Moreover, during the past year, the industry has been in a lull awaiting the new 2257 regs. Therefore, legal expenses have been lower than in past years when they were fighting the 2257s, XXX-tld, and the Utah/Michigan Canspam Acts.

When the new regs are published, I'm confident that the FSC will take appropriate action and we will again see an increase in legal expenses.

The goal has always been longterm: to win the war on censorship at the national level.

The funds may not be spent as you would like them to be spent; but, that does not constitute mismanagement.

As I recall, the Board determines how the funds are to be spent and reviews the budget that is proposed by the ED and financials that are prepared by an independent outside accounting firm. The Board then makes any changes in its' priorities in the proposed budget it feels are appropriate.

If you want to change how the money is spent, I suggest that you run for the Board.

The Executive Director is not a member of the Board and doesn't vote on agenda items so don't blame her for doing her job.

Over the past 6 years, I have known Bill Lyon, Kat Sunlove, Michelle Freridge and Diane Duke as EDs of the FSC. I can truthfully say that I feel there has been an improvement over time in the abilities of the ED to move the FSC forward.

I should believe you because you received an email from some anonymous "insider" who was in the know......but, is yet to be revealled. (Deep Throat, maybe).

You are entitled to your opinion.
are you the same guy as MAK? If not, who are you? I am really starting to mistrust the FSC if it is only defended by post bots.
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Old 12-06-2008   #3
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I support the FSC and proud to do so.

The goal has always been longterm: to win the war on censorship at the national level.


Over the past 6 years, I have known Bill Lyon, Kat Sunlove, Michelle Freridge and Diane Duke as EDs of the FSC. I can truthfully say that I feel there has been an improvement over time in the abilities of the ED to move the FSC forward.
I have known of and known the people behind FSC for the longest time, maybe 10 years or more. Bill Margold use to set up shop at every adult event selling t-shirts, pens, and just about anything else to raise funds. Back at that point, they were very focused on the issues of free speech and censorship.

But with their more recent moves to try to "get in front of issues" such as piracy, the current FSC crew has shown more interest in being a general industry group rather than focusing on the issues of speech and censorship. That the entire 2257 legal process was a dud (overtaken by events), and that the best judgement against 2257 came not from a FSC action but by a private action makes me wonder if the ship has lost it's rudder.

To this day, the FSC still doesn't appear to have it's membership processing on the ball, they don't appear to be responsive to member needs, and if this report is true, they don't seem to be very good at keeping track of the money either.

it's all about results. How long do we have to wait to see some?
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I have known of and known the people behind FSC for the longest time, maybe 10 years or more. Bill Margold use to set up shop at every adult event selling t-shirts, pens, and just about anything else to raise funds. Back at that point, they were very focused on the issues of free speech and censorship.

But with their more recent moves to try to "get in front of issues" such as piracy, the current FSC crew has shown more interest in being a general industry group rather than focusing on the issues of speech and censorship. That the entire 2257 legal process was a dud (overtaken by events), and that the best judgement against 2257 came not from a FSC action but by a private action makes me wonder if the ship has lost it's rudder.

To this day, the FSC still doesn't appear to have it's membership processing on the ball, they don't appear to be responsive to member needs, and if this report is true, they don't seem to be very good at keeping track of the money either.

it's all about results. How long do we have to wait to see some?

Yea, that about summarizes my feelings.
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