Piracy Summit Speakers

[miz_wright]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Without more controls and less the freedom the fight against piracy will always be uphill.

Make it illegal to advertise on a site that clearly promotes the theft of any content and the piracy issue will diminish... [snip]

Since when is it a good idea to get the government involved in approving ad space on a non-harmful product?

As far as I am aware, the only legal restrictions on advertising media is for smokine - in all other cases, it is self regulated by the ad world itself. Case in point: the trouble finding ad space for Zack and Miri. No governmental agency or sidearm is making it difficult - that is strictly at the choice of the agencies that have space inventories.

No, Paul, while I certainly have problems with the tacit approval of theft by those who choose to advertise on the sites in question, I think the solution is to make the option to do so untenable rather than illegal.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by LizAEBN

Since when is it a good idea to get the government involved in approving ad space on a non-harmful product?

As far as I am aware, the only legal restrictions on advertising media is for smokine - in all other cases, it is self regulated by the ad world itself. Case in point: the trouble finding ad space for Zack and Miri. No governmental agency or sidearm is making it difficult - that is strictly at the choice of the agencies that have space inventories.

No, Paul, while I certainly have problems with the tacit approval of theft by those who choose to advertise on the sites in question, I think the solution is to make the option to do so untenable rather than illegal.

Non harmful????

It's harming the profitability of the Internet. I have no problem with you buying content or using content you own to advertsie webcams or dating sites or even your own site. I do have a problem with you having content that is obviously stolen on your site so you can earn a profit.

You don't care because you're laughing all the way to the bank.

buggerlugs as I said it would be content intended for publication, are you talking about computers communicating with each other?

Gonzo I knew you had no case and would come up with more lies. I have never said traffic does not matter in this business. I have said it matters less than many people think. Less is not does not matter. Keep twisting my words.

All my solutions to Tubes are pipe dreams. The Goverments of the world are unlikely to get together to ban the theft of propert on the Internet, the industry will do little about it and some will fight tooth and nail to keep the ability to profit from theft. As for the industry looking at winning the surfer back by giving him something he wants to buy, that's even more of a pipe dream.

Threads and seminars like these usually end up as a waste of time. I don't have the time to waste.

[miz_wright]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Non harmful????

It's harming the profitability of the Internet. I have no problem with you buying content or using content you own to advertsie webcams or dating sites or even your own site. I do have a problem with you having content that is obviously stolen on your site so you can earn a profit.

You don't care because you're laughing all the way to the bank...[snip]

Wait, what?

You're creating an argument that porn is harmful? And analogous to smoking, so therefore either it - or the wide and varied world of the internet should be limited to the type of speech you find appropriate, in the format you approve? Is that what you're saying? Because that's what it looks like.

I'm not entirely sure where you're coming up with the idea that a) I have stolen content or b) that I am "laughing all the way to the bank" - or really what the second has to do with anything regardless, as I'm not entirely sure my take-home pay is germane to the conversation at hand.

I find it profoundly distubring that you feel regulation at a federal - or possible international level, since the internet defies political boundaries, which is part of what makes it great - level appropriate or necessary, considering your niche of choice is one of the very ones that bring us, as an industry, under scrutiny.

Which is where that whole "free speech" thing comes into play.