American and Delta Deny Porn

[TheEnforcer]

I don't have a problem with this.

[miz_wright]

Originally Posted by TheEnforcer

I don't have a problem with this.

Why not?

[TheEnforcer]

Originally Posted by LizAEBN

Why not?

Many reasons. An airplane is private property for one. They have the right to control what happens in their place of business within reason which this most certainly is. Two. I think it's rude in the extreme to watch porn on a plane. No parent wants to walk their kid to the bathroom and have them point at a laptop and say, "what are those people doing? " to them. Heck, the vast majority of adults likely don't wanna see a porn film on a plane.

[miz_wright]

Originally Posted by TheEnforcer

Many reasons. An airplane is private property for one. They have the right to control what happens in their place of business within reason which this most certainly is. Two. I think it's rude in the extreme to watch porn on a plane. No parent wants to walk their kid to the bathroom and have them point at a laptop and say, "what are those people doing? " to them. Heck, the vast majority of adults likely don't wanna see a porn film on a plane.

While I agree that they have the right to control what happens in their place of business, social mores typically prevent one from watching porn on the plane anyhow - which is actually note - but this doesn't actually prevent one from watching adult content, simply from accessing websites.

I could bring my Evil Angel, Zero Tolerance, or NINN Worx DVDs with me all day - but I wouldn't be able to check my clients' sites for marketing strategies should I choose to. Which is where my concerns come into play.

Plus, really? Who gets to decide what I can access? That's kinda fucked and Orwellian for me.

[TheEnforcer]

Originally Posted by LizAEBN

While I agree that they have the right to control what happens in their place of business, social mores typically prevent one from watching porn on the plane anyhow - which is actually note - but this doesn't actually prevent one from watching adult content, simply from accessing websites.

I could bring my Evil Angel, Zero Tolerance, or NINN Worx DVDs with me all day - but I wouldn't be able to check my clients' sites for marketing strategies should I choose to. Which is where my concerns come into play.

Plus, really? Who gets to decide what I can access? That's kinda fucked and Orwellian for me.

We all know that are people out there who don't give a damn about social mores. Blame it on people who visited a porn site on their laptop mid-flight. Now, they can either deal with the hassle of trying to get some rude person not to watch/look at porn mid flight or just try and prevent havign to deal with it at all as much as possible.

Also, do you let anybody do anything they want when they come to your home?? Does AEBN let you do anything you want while working? People set rules for their place of home or business every day.

[miz_wright]

Originally Posted by TheEnforcer

We all know that are people out there who don't give a damn about social mores. Blame it on people who visited a porn site on their laptop mid-flight. {snip}
Also, do you let anybody do anything they want when they come to your home?? Does AEBN let you do anything you want while working? People set rules for their place of home or business every day.

1) This wouldn't have been possible via inflight wifi until very recently, and the article states it's never happened as far as anyone knows at any rate. So that's an invalid arguement to have, really. And again, I reiterate: it doesn't mean porn is inaccessible in toto, simply not via the web.

2) Also, not analogous arguements. I don't charge people to come into my house and then deny them access to their livlihood. And in return for certain job functions, AEBN provides me with compensation - it's an acceptable trade. In this case, I am paying for a business need - travel - and the standard for preventing someone from working, regardless of the business model under which that work is done, is not across the board. This, to my mind, constitutes a selective enforcement on job access - a banker will be able to work with his clients and access information on the financial markets, but I am unable to work with mine. This is an untenable encroachment on my ability to work that is not without bias on the part of the airlines in question.

[TheEnforcer]

Originally Posted by LizAEBN

1) This wouldn't have been possible via inflight wifi until very recently, and the article states it's never happened as far as anyone knows at any rate. So that's an invalid arguement to have, really. And again, I reiterate: it doesn't mean porn is inaccessible in toto, simply not via the web.

2) Also, not analogous arguements. I don't charge people to come into my house and then deny them access to their livlihood. And in return for certain job functions, AEBN provides me with compensation - it's an acceptable trade. In this case, I am paying for a business need - travel - and the standard for preventing someone from working, regardless of the business model under which that work is done, is not across the board. This, to my mind, constitutes a selective enforcement on job access - a banker will be able to work with his clients and access information on the financial markets, but I am unable to work with mine. This is an untenable encroachment on my ability to work that is not without bias on the part of the airlines in question.

1 -Doesn't matter that it hasn't only that it most certainly can. They say why let it happen at all? You can either use their flight service or not. You can just as easily take a train and have a private car if you wish or drive or take a boat if applicable. The point is it is THEIR privatye place of business, not yours, and thus they can set groundrules for using their services. You either accept them or use a different carrier or other mode of transportation. No one is forcing you to take a plane with that carrier.

2- The point is EVERYWHERE/EVERYONE has a set of rules of conduct on their premies and such. Freedom doen't mean anything goes and other people have rights as well.