Adult Tube Sites and Servers

[gonzo]

If it were me Id make a tube site as a traffic pump to my own stuff. Overs the legal issues and solves the traffic one as well.

[jdog]

Originally Posted by gonzo

If it were me Id make a tube site as a traffic pump to my own stuff. Overs the legal issues and solves the traffic one as well.

I'd have to agree that is probably the safest way to make a tube site, and it generates a shit load of inhouse traffic too

[Tubie28]

Ok I’ll become a secondary producer, which is what I would be if I had my own content, then I would have all the 2257 issues to deal with, would I not?

Let’s take a look at these tube sites and compare them to the sites that actually make the porn or supply, doesn’t matter which one. I reckon that YouPorn makes more money than let’s say Brazzers... can’t remember what the traffic rank was for YouPorn exactly but it’s something like 34. It generates a colossal amount of traffic, fuck the legality of it. You show me a “legitimate” site that makes more money or even beats an alleged “illegal” porn site for revenue or traffic... I bet you can’t find one. I think some people should grow some cock and balls and do things without worrying if the DMCA are coming to get you.

I think if you are cautious in the beginning and don’t have too many videos that breach any copyright laws you will be ok. Sites like Brazzers depend on sites like YouPorn to survive so I guess they wouldn’t be too upset if one day they found one of their videos illegally uploaded, after all most of the top pay site embed their logo into the video, free advertising. If I don’t take the piss I’m sure I’ll be ok.

You need some bollocks jdog! Do something that’s risky... you may make a lot of money. I know YouTube does and they don’t seem too bothered about copyright... same goes for YouPorn.

[Nymph]

Originally Posted by Tubie28

Ok I’ll become a secondary producer, which is what I would be if I had my own content, then I would have all the 2257 issues to deal with, would I not?

Let’s take a look at these tube sites and compare them to the sites that actually make the porn or supply, doesn’t matter which one. I reckon that YouPorn makes more money than let’s say Brazzers... can’t remember what the traffic rank was for YouPorn exactly but it’s something like 34. It generates a colossal amount of traffic, fuck the legality of it. You show me a “legitimate” site that makes more money or even beats an alleged “illegal” porn site for revenue or traffic... I bet you can’t find one. I think some people should grow some cock and balls and do things without worrying if the DMCA are coming to get you.

I think if you are cautious in the beginning and don’t have too many videos that breach any copyright laws you will be ok. Sites like Brazzers depend on sites like YouPorn to survive so I guess they wouldn’t be too upset if one day they found one of their videos illegally uploaded, after all most of the top pay site embed their logo into the video, free advertising. If I don’t take the piss I’m sure I’ll be ok.

You need some bollocks jdog! Do something that’s risky... you may make a lot of money. I know YouTube does and they don’t seem too bothered about copyright... same goes for YouPorn.

Excuse me for interupting but, are you seriously saying screw legalities all you care about is making a butt load of money? I just want to know what type of person we are dealing with here.

[jdog]

Originally Posted by Tubie28

Ok I’ll become a secondary producer, which is what I would be if I had my own content, then I would have all the 2257 issues to deal with, would I not?

Let’s take a look at these tube sites and compare them to the sites that actually make the porn or supply, doesn’t matter which one. I reckon that YouPorn makes more money than let’s say Brazzers... can’t remember what the traffic rank was for YouPorn exactly but it’s something like 34. It generates a colossal amount of traffic, fuck the legality of it. You show me a “legitimate” site that makes more money or even beats an alleged “illegal” porn site for revenue or traffic... I bet you can’t find one. I think some people should grow some cock and balls and do things without worrying if the DMCA are coming to get you.

I think if you are cautious in the beginning and don’t have too many videos that breach any copyright laws you will be ok. Sites like Brazzers depend on sites like YouPorn to survive so I guess they wouldn’t be too upset if one day they found one of their videos illegally uploaded, after all most of the top pay site embed their logo into the video, free advertising. If I don’t take the piss I’m sure I’ll be ok.

You need some bollocks jdog! Do something that’s risky... you may make a lot of money. I know YouTube does and they don’t seem too bothered about copyright... same goes for YouPorn.

Nymph - I think we are dealing with somebody that wants to do illegal shit and make shit load of money.

Now Tubie, now that your intentions are clear, go make your tube site and see when all the C&D's come in and the DMCA notices come in. And I can tell you 100% that sites like Brazzers don't depend on sites like YouPorn, look at my sig you idiot. I work with a sponsor program, I know the notices that your site will end up getting. No sponsor wants their video unwatermarked on a page promoting everything but them, it's content thief you idiot. Start your own tube site, if you have a problem with paying $2000 a month, you're gonna be bankrupt really soon and it'll serve you right.

And so you know if anything is ever taken to court you know what the penalties are right? $250k per copyright violation? But I'm sure you got that covered.

By the way, risky and illegal are two different things. I'm in the middle of a risky mainstream project that might not make a penny back if I dont' do it right. Spending thousands on it, but may not bring any return. But I'm not doing anything illegal you stupid fuck.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Tubie28

You show me a “legitimate” site that makes more money or even beats an alleged “illegal” porn site for revenue or traffic... I bet you can’t find one.

Im certain I can find 3 without even looking.

[MRock]

It's really hard for me to believe this Tubie28 nick is for real ... after reading his discourse it seems more like he is just trying to stir up shit ... get attention ... something ... but not asking for real advice. Launch your tube site man, you got it all figured out dude, yeah. lmao

[Tubie28]

Gonzo – I’m not being funny but how can you find 3 without looking?! Anyway please show me 3 that outdo YouPorn for revenue and traffic, I’m not being sarcastic here, I genuinely would like this information. BTW are you the owner of fatfuckingcash.com?

Nymph - you are dealing with someone who just wants some information but it seems that some people are exceedingly ignorant and just want to insult and get personal because they are too spineless to try something that could be risky.

Jdog – It seems I’ve hit a nerve with you. I know you work for a sponsor... a sponsor I’ve never heard of, a sponsor ranked 931,233 by Alexa and in my opinion is the most unprofessional piece of shit I’ve ever seen. You have 1 site “squirtingcarly.com” that has a traffic rank that is not entirely pathetic, still pretty shite though and the only reason it’s better than the rest is because it was owned by someone else before your company, all the other sites are struggling to reach 2 million! I’ve had parking pages that surpass these for traffic rank - behindthesites.com was ranked over 12million by Alexa! That really is pathetic! Look, the sensible side of me really doesn’t want to say anything bad about you because it’s clear you work for a retard who has clouded your judgment, you’re a young lad who needs educating in business and ethics. From what I can gather, your opinion is that “I shouldn’t break copyright laws, do everything 100% legal and forget about making lots and lots of money because it’s dishonourable to do business the way the highly lucrative tube sites do business, right!? These comments make you sound like an idiot. You’ve read an article about so and so who is going to court and being prosecuted so you think “shit, I’d better not do that because I could get prosecuted too”. Let me tell you something, if you give inaccurate information to the ownership of a site they would never find you so therefore could not take you to court a slap you in the face for 250k. All they would do in the end is insist that the website is terminated with whoever hosts the site, I know for a fact that some countries don’t even acknowledge the American DMCA so if you’re not American, which I’m not, it means fuck all. We can’t really question any ethics when we talk about porn, according to the bible it’s a sin so making money from it either way is bad. Anyway, in a nut shell your company isn’t really a good business model to back up any info you believe to be right or wrong, you should come back in a few years when you’re out of nappies, sorry diapers. Also, you really need to take that shit out of your face because you look bad enough without it... sorry I didn’t mean that, I’m being really petty now. Only PR2 too... that’s page rank.

RawAlex – I appreciate what you’ve had to offer. You’ve articulated yourself very well without insulting me, so thanks.

MRock – It’s also really hard for me to work out if you are on my side because you wrote “this Tubie28 nick" Do you mean dick or even prick? It must be dick because my name is not Nick. Why would I be trying to stir shit up? I’ve never posted on here before, I don’t know anyone, I have no reason to stir any shit. I just wanted people’s opinions on hosting tube sites and maybe how I would go about doing this properly.

Just before I finish I would like to point out I wouldn’t break any copyright laws I just wanted some advice. I suppose I’ll be kicked off now.

Ps. I’d better warn YouPorn and RedTube that the jdog is going to tell on them for violating some copyright laws... I’m sure they’ll be shaking in their boots at the thought of the “multimillion dollar business” fatfuckingcrap, sorry cash, taking them to court. Nice forum btw.

[jdog]

Originally Posted by Tubie28

Jdog – It seems I’ve hit a nerve with you. I know you work for a sponsor... a sponsor I’ve never heard of, a sponsor ranked 931,233 by Alexa and in my opinion is the most unprofessional piece of shit I’ve ever seen. You have 1 site “squirtingcarly.com” that has a traffic rank that is not entirely pathetic, still pretty shite though and the only reason it’s better than the rest is because it was owned by someone else before your company, all the other sites are struggling to reach 2 million! I’ve had parking pages that surpass these for traffic rank - behindthesites.com was ranked over 12million by Alexa! That really is pathetic! Look, the sensible side of me really doesn’t want to say anything bad about you because it’s clear you work for a retard who has clouded your judgment, you’re a young lad who needs educating in business and ethics. From what I can gather, your opinion is that “I shouldn’t break copyright laws, do everything 100% legal and forget about making lots and lots of money because it’s dishonourable to do business the way the highly lucrative tube sites do business, right!? These comments make you sound like an idiot. You’ve read an article about so and so who is going to court and being prosecuted so you think “shit, I’d better not do that because I could get prosecuted too”. Let me tell you something, if you give inaccurate information to the ownership of a site they would never find you so therefore could not take you to court a slap you in the face for 250k. All they would do in the end is insist that the website is terminated with whoever hosts the site, I know for a fact that some countries don’t even acknowledge the American DMCA so if you’re not American, which I’m not, it means fuck all. We can’t really question any ethics when we talk about porn, according to the bible it’s a sin so making money from it either way is bad. Anyway, in a nut shell your company isn’t really a good business model to back up any info you believe to be right or wrong, you should come back in a few years when you’re out of nappies, sorry diapers. Also, you really need to take that shit out of your face because you look bad enough without it... sorry I didn’t mean that, I’m being really petty now. Only PR2 too... that’s page rank.

First off, I don't know who the hell you're talking about, since I know our alexa rating is no where near 931,000. Are you sure you got the right site you idiot? I'm pretty sure people in the industry know New Sensations you dipshit. Maybe you're just a complete idiot and don't know how to read a signature.

Tell me, mister fucking hotshot that has not a single ounce of intelligence, where you plan to make this quick fucking money. I'm a programmer, I've been programming for close to 18 years, I know my math. Tell me how you expect to make "quick" money doing what you want to do when you're worried about $2,000 for a fucking server?!?!

You're going to lose a lot of fucking money before you make a fucking dime. And to attack your intelligence again, most countries do acknowledge copyright laws.

And Gonzo is right, I know of huge free sites (TGPs, MPGs) that do make more money than these sites compared. It's a matter of profits. It doesn't matter who makes the most revenue, but the one who makes the most profits. I think you're due for business 101 at the local college.

Go ahead, go and break international copyright laws, do what you feel will make you the most money. And I'm sure you'll end up with no money at all. BTW, so you know my signature is down below - NSCash, you fucking moron. Tried to be fucking nice and give you good advice and you go to the personal attacks, really, really professional.

[MRock]

Originally Posted by Tubie28

MRock – It’s also really hard for me to work out if you are on my side because you wrote “this Tubie28 nick" Do you mean dick or even prick? It must be dick because my name is not Nick. Why would I be trying to stir shit up? I’ve never posted on here before, I don’t know anyone, I have no reason to stir any shit. I just wanted people’s opinions on hosting tube sites and maybe how I would go about doing this properly.

Just before I finish I would like to point out I wouldn’t break any copyright laws I just wanted some advice. I suppose I’ll be kicked off now.

I'm not on anyones side. The term "nick" is short for nickname. I was inferring that your post could be a joke, posted by a seasoned webmaster, to stir up things. Most people do not enter a business community forum and include "steal" in their first post. If you really are new at this and seeking answers, I would refrain from using that again. It can easily be taken the wrong way. I'm a producer of content myself and we're a little sensitive about thievery ... I am glad to see you clarified that you "wouldn't break any copyright laws" with your last post. Welcome to Oprano.