Americans: You have te right to bear arms

[softball]

I hate to say it, but if you are the victim of a home invasion, your pea shooter will prolly get you killed. It might make you feel better to go down fighting, but you ain't gonna shoot down five or ten guys before they either cap you or take your piece and do you with your own weapon.
I lost my idealism years ago when pragmatism overwhelmed me. This decision is the last gasp of the Bush era to really finally fuck the United States. Legal guns lead to legal killing. Only the collective will of the people should kill people legally. Not a moron with a sixth grade education that "thinks" he is being threatened. Not that anyone here is that guy, but they are allowed to purchase deadly weapons.
And as for those that have an arsenal, have a nice day because there is not one fucking good argument for that shit. None.

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

I hate to say it, but if you are the victim of a home invasion, your pea shooter will prolly get you killed.

That's a bet I would take any day. And no one expects the OK Corral. It's hard to say how many home invasions, robberies, muggings, car jackings, etc are averted merely by having a cowardly thief scared off by a non-victim with a gun. Those do not make the news typically.

In my case, again, I would take that bet. Ya see, I was raised with guns from the time I was kid. I was taught to respect them and handle them safely. I was also taught to shoot them accurately, very accurately. In high school, every saturday morning was spent shooting. Yeah, I know that probably seems foreign to many, target shooting for fun and sport.

And this is why I wont jump in this particular debate more than once a year. It's cultural. Here in the deep south, most males are raised with guns. Hunting is a huge sport.

Redneck values are hard to understand sometimes if you haven't been raised with them or around them. Ya see, most anyone in my family if they knew you were hungry, down on your luck or whatever, they would feed you. If they only had $10 to their name, and they thought your family truly needed it, they'd give you $5 of it.

But, try to enter the house and take it by force or just without asking, and it's a different story. And whatever you do, dont endanger anyone in the family. Even the little old ladies in the family know how to use a shot gun.

I dont expect outsiders and non-gun cultures to get it. And it's just like religion, you'll never change anyone's mind.

[DannyCox]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

Here in the deep south, most males are raised with guns. Hunting is a huge sport.

Hunting is also a huge sport in most areas of Canada. Americans are always up here for "real hunting", as they call it. And we do have some of the best hunting in North America. We have the largest moose, elk, caribou, and White Tail & Mule deer. There is also black bear and Grizzly, mountain goat, Big Horn Sheep, and even more. Most, larger and harder to hunt than in the US. Anyone born and raised in a rural community in Canada was brought up with rifles and shotguns, but very few see the point in owning a handgun. To them, it's just a paper weight you can't really do anything with.

This discussion isn't about guns in general, but about hand guns. To see the difference between the US and Canada, just look at the rates of violence with hand guns between the two countries. It's truly a night and day difference. The talk is about protection, but how often do people actually get to a gun during a home invasion? Odds are if you have a gun for protection, and try and use it, you will lose....and how good a shot you think you are on the range just doesn't factor in.

[sarettah]

Handguns are for hunting.....

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

I hate to say it, but if you are the victim of a home invasion, your pea shooter will prolly get you killed. It might make you feel better to go down fighting, but you ain't gonna shoot down five or ten guys before they either cap you or take your piece and do you with your own weapon.
I lost my idealism years ago when pragmatism overwhelmed me. This decision is the last gasp of the Bush era to really finally fuck the United States. Legal guns lead to legal killing. Only the collective will of the people should kill people legally. Not a moron with a sixth grade education that "thinks" he is being threatened. Not that anyone here is that guy, but they are allowed to purchase deadly weapons.
And as for those that have an arsenal, have a nice day because there is not one fucking good argument for that shit. None.

Ummm, it wasn't a "Bush" decision. The decision was made 200+ years ago. It has been the law of the land since then. The only "decision" was a bad one, attempting to override the forefathers ideals, by a bleeding heart peacenik like you. The Supreme court, (NOT Bush, we don't have Kings and Queens here) just reaffirmed, and further clarified the constitutional right. In a likely, vain attempt to keep idiots from trying to limit the constitution.

Personally, I don't want to "kill" anyone. Not alone, and not as a part of a "collective will." Maybe you should re-examine your motives? You juts don't get it, and probably never will. We don't WANT to kill anyone. But we're not afraid to, if necessary.