writers copyrights

[RawAlex]

Written word is no different from any other created content: The author (or the rights holder) owns the rights unless they have specifically released it into that good old "public domain". If you write a book, you own the rights to the book and you can control how it is used.

HOWEVER... there are plenty of exceptions to any rule. Fair use, the quoting of some of an article to report on the article itself, or to make a point while giving attribution (I am sure you did this in University, right?) . There are tons of other little exceptions.

For chat boards like this, nobody has made case law yet that I know of. Basically, if an article is published in, say, USA TOday, can some or all of it be posted "between friends" as part of a discussion? Does USA Today lose money because we wouldn't read it? Does it give them a boost? Nobody has gone there.

As for erotic stories, those are all copyrighted material to the original author. Most of them have released them for "non commercial use", which means in theory you cannot use them in a membership site or on a page with advertising (aka, commercial benefit). Many of the authors of these things are mega-agressive about protecting their work and they will hassle you endlessly if they find their stuff on a site you own.

In other words, don't do it.

There is no "presumed public domain" - either you can prove it is, or it isn't. No presumptions allowed.

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Written word is no different from any other created content: The author (or the rights holder) owns the rights unless they have specifically released it into that good old "public domain". If you write a book, you own the rights to the book and you can control how it is used.

HOWEVER... there are plenty of exceptions to any rule. Fair use, the quoting of some of an article to report on the article itself, or to make a point while giving attribution (I am sure you did this in University, right?) . There are tons of other little exceptions.

For chat boards like this, nobody has made case law yet that I know of. Basically, if an article is published in, say, USA TOday, can some or all of it be posted "between friends" as part of a discussion? Does USA Today lose money because we wouldn't read it? Does it give them a boost? Nobody has gone there.


As for erotic stories, those are all copyrighted material to the original author. Most of them have released them for "non commercial use", which means in theory you cannot use them in a membership site or on a page with advertising (aka, commercial benefit). Many of the authors of these things are mega-agressive about protecting their work and they will hassle you endlessly if they find their stuff on a site you own.

In other words, don't do it.

There is no "presumed public domain" - either you can prove it is, or it isn't. No presumptions allowed.

Well this is why I originally ask these questions.
I get what your saying, and realized that small gap where "Nobody's gone there yet" point being reached.
So I wanted to ask how far I can push the line here, when copyrights get involved.
Discussing a reposted article elsewhere from where originally posted should be to the advantage of the writer and its promoters. "at least I would think this"

USA Today is a good example, I wish to engage in conversation on a story written from USA Today per say,
I CP'd the story onto another chat forum or personal website for discussion? There shouldn't be anything illegal about this.
It's no different than what a Radio Station might do live on the air, to read or quote an article from any major press release and then open phone lines for discussion? right?

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Rcourt64

Well this is why I originally ask these questions.
I get what your saying, and realized that small gap where "Nobody's gone there yet" point being reached.
So I wanted to ask how far I can push the line here, when copyrights get involved.
Discussing a reposted article elsewhere from where originally posted should be to the advantage of the writer and its promoters. "at least I would think this"

USA Today is a good example, I wish to engage in conversation on a story written from USA Today per say,
I CP'd the story onto another chat forum or personal website for discussion? There shouldn't be anything illegal about this.
It's no different than what a Radio Station might do live on the air, to read or quote an article from any major press release and then open phone lines for discussion? right?

I try to link back to the source or credit it.

If its a press release or the orginal souce is an RSS feed then its meant to be passed around and edited.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Rcourt64

So I wanted to ask how far I can push the line here, when copyrights get involved.

How far you can push depends on how willing you are to deal with the consequences when a copyright owner decides to push back. You're the only one that can answer that question.

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by Toby

How far you can push depends on how willing you are to deal with the consequences when a copyright owner decides to push back. You're the only one that can answer that question.

Well thats it then I guess.
Toby has wrapped up another thread for us with his fast two sentence reply.
Abuse all ya want till ya get POPPED and DROPPED!

I think this is how most of "us" amateur internet entrepreneur begin they're Adult Blogging or Website Business journey into the Imprudent Inaccurate Internet<---"thats a poor pun for Wild Wild West" ...this I believe is what 85% (if not more) of the Internet American Amateur Adult Business Network finds themselves in 2008, "then follows mainstream, but more towards Adult production direction here".

In todays American standard of living your average American Internet users business grows here like drinking and driving on American Highways, "Ya think its alright & push it and race it till ya get pulled over and convicted".
RIGHT TOBY?

Its difficult to attempt ideas of profit in a society of loose cannons and free law willed enterprise...

A Space for rent of Internet Limbo, ...Where FREE willed govern internet doesn't need to enforce these standards of American laws till the radar detects them.
Its not that I disagree with them, don't mistake my thoughts with anything anti American govern.
(Thats just not my bag here man)
But its just continues to shows me more... Maybe I might find it more business soothing to do what I do for a living in another country. And probably at a much lower cost of investment without attempting to figure out and follow laws that no longer override me or my business.
And thats with a lower overhead, "But.. mums the word there"

I love this country! But I ask why waste time attempting to build an Industry for profit on a line of Internet, Where a Wild Wild West Atmosphere still reigns, and your local sheriffs can only enforce legalities in they're own towns?

[helix]

Originally Posted by gonzo

If they didnt mean for it to be reproduced they wouldnt send it out for republication via a press release or an RSS feed.

Both are syndication. Really Simple Syndication as a matter of fact.

Originally Posted by gonzo

I try to link back to the source or credit it.

If its a press release or the orginal souce is an RSS feed then its meant to be passed around and edited.

Originally Posted by Toby

How far you can push depends on how willing you are to deal with the consequences when a copyright owner decides to push back. You're the only one that can answer that question.

That sums it up. Just give credit where credit is due, and if you want to push the envelope be prepared to defend your stance.
Nothing cryptic there.