Rhetorical... I'm sorry...

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Like I said, truckie, San Francisco is only about a month away. (its on the I5 in case you get lost) You are welcome to say all of this in person. I will show her your work. You can dazzle her with the wealth of internet marketing acumen that you have gleaned from Jace. Overwhelm us with your stories of great marketing success. You are more than welcome to join us for a drink. That is if you want a pretty blonde girl to ream your fat ass.

Come on now graham... you know its about the mighty dollar CHA-CHING CHA-CHING right?
you sold her whore nasty looking face once? We can do it again.
Just give me another change please..... I'm on my hands and kness here.

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[DannyCox]

Originally Posted by Rcourt64

you sold her whore nasty looking face once?

I said it before, and I will say it again. Anyone attacking a partner of someone on any of my boards would be immediately banned. Without warning. Rcourt, your beef is with Graham, why bring his wife into it? That just shows desperation and a total lack of maturity and intelligence. Why attack someone who isn't here to fight back? As I said the last time you pulled this infantile crap, I don't know you, have never talked to you, and have never had anything against you. But...I really don't like when someone hides behind a keyboard and resorts to your type of tactics. Signs of a very weak man. Belittle Graham all you like, just leave family alone.

The big problem with Oprano is the lack of moderation. This bullshit just goes on and on and is keeping people away. Time for someone to grow a pair, start swinging that cock, and take the reigns, or this place really will die. I hardly post as 95% of what I see posted is bullshit and unrelated to anything we do.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by DannyCox

I said it before, and I will say it again. Anyone attacking a partner of someone on any of my boards would be immediately banned. Without warning. Rcourt, your beef is with Graham, why bring his wife into it? That just shows desperation and a total lack of maturity and intelligence. Why attack someone who isn't here to fight back? As I said the last time you pulled this infantile crap, I don't know you, have never talked to you, and have never had anything against you. But...I really don't like when someone hides behind a keyboard and resorts to your type of tactics. Signs of a very weak man. Belittle Graham all you like, just leave family alone.

The big problem with Oprano is the lack of moderation. This bullshit just goes on and on and is keeping people away. Time for someone to grow a pair, start swinging that cock, and take the reigns, or this place really will die. I hardly post as 95% of what I see posted is bullshit and unrelated to anything we do.

I hear what your saying Danny. Ive just not ever been much for banning people. Its the freedom of speech streak that Ive had since I was a kid.

Another one of my character flaws along with trying to do always do the right thing.

I guess I figure in the back of my mind that Darwinis theory takes care of all when it comes to this business.

I used to spare with Graham a few years ago and he is a fun guy to debate. I never had an occasion to bring his wife into our discussions as it was irrelevant. I actually do look forward to meeting them both.

Out of some of our heated discussions most on Ammasters I think we both found a healthy respect for the others style. I think it was you that once told me that Graham lot of times is bored and trying to get a rise out of people while his videos were rendering.

I guess piss has been a staple of this board since its been around. Im guilty of reintroducing it to the board I suppose but shady business practices seem to motivate me to do so. A lot of people ask me why do you hate so and so etc.

I can really think of one person in this business that pushed a button on that level and blatant pedophiles IMHO are no good for this business or society. Sex Education dude is long since gone. And thats really the only person in this business that Ive ever felt the need to make it personal.

The rest of the time I imagine Im just like Graham enjoying the rise that I get out of people while they all imagine that Im capturing screeens and printing out threads to make ready for a fed ex package to pose as a law suit.

I can say that I have had the good fortune to meet both Jace and Rcourt in person. Both seem to be genuine good people. Jace has managed to really carve his way into the word press side of this business and I wish him good fortune and hope that he sticks with it to make his mark even if its just as a personal milestone.

Rcourt has some really funny photoshops and one of those sense of humor that would probably serve him well on a blog. The new interactive style of blogs like Mike south has done where he actually interacts with people and has other writers would be a great platform for him. If not a money maker at least a creative outlet.

Maybe in this case is why Im reluctant to use the ban hammer. Ill remind you as personal as it got on both sides we never banned Confucy and that mess got very personal with both Serge and Kevin Mitnick. When you literally reach out from behind the screen and mess with someones life I dont think it gets any more personal.

The business is changing as it always does. I dont need to tell you this as youve seen it as much as I have and a lot more in depth.

I guess I need to be more aware that even though its my job to be the straw that stirs the drink its also my responsibility to set the example.

Maybe these guys can take the women out of the equation and find what it is they really have issue with each other.

Or maybe they will come to the point where they agree to disagree.

That being said I will admit that several of us decided that we must go to Cybernet Expo just to meet Graham and have an excuse to do some business. With that being a month away I certainly encourage others to consider doing so.

[pam]

Well, here is my 2 cents' worth, if it's worth that much. I agree with everything Danny has said. Gonzo, why don't you do what I did on one forum when the kids could not get along, that is make a section/forum called "The Ring" where anything and everything goes, but it is not viewable by the public/search engines, only people in one specific group? People here are saying things and it will come back to bite them in the butt as far as future work.

[sarettah]

"Hey what can I say, you're dealing with the kings of piss and name calling is what we do for a living ;-))"
- Timon

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[gonzo]

Originally Posted by pam

Well, here is my 2 cents' worth, if it's worth that much. I agree with everything Danny has said. Gonzo, why don't you do what I did on one forum when the kids could not get along, that is make a section/forum called "The Ring" where anything and everything goes, but it is not viewable by the public/search engines, only people in one specific group? People here are saying things and it will come back to bite them in the butt as far as future work.

The web is indeed forever. Already got one whining for his id to be deleted becasue hes figured out that his behaviour is googlishious.

[Rcourt64]

Rhetorical, Danny, Pam and Any Other,
I'd like to attempt to explain this again here,
When people decide to sell or promote a family member or friend into the art of public entertainment (adult or mainstream)
You have to learn to except the good with the bad in that industry field.

You members all here at this Oprano board are suppose to be involved in the marketing industry. you all should be the last type of people to get offended by any of this types of threads.

This wife, cousin, mother, or sister of yours that you decided to make money off of, is now an object of public sale,
...(AND PUBLIC COMMENT) its that American free speech thing you guys have here in this wonderful country.

You can't have this one sided
Where they're getting fucked in front of a camera they're a promotional product, but when at home they turns back into the wife, mom, etc, product. sorry people its not part of the deal in the public eye.

Another issue I feel is not being noticed is when I address Grahams wife,
She is in character. I'm addressing the person in character,

Originally Posted by rcourt64

you sold her whore nasty looking face once?

That was in reference to a person in character. (a person in a wig and disguises)


I don't personally now his wife, or ever seen him or her. I have no clue what they look like.
But for some reason members will take it to a personal level,
As if I'm invading your personal lives or family members? sorry people your wrong.
Thats just your personal hang ups you people have.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by DannyCox

The big problem with Oprano is the lack of moderation. This bullshit just goes on and on and is keeping people away. Time for someone to grow a pair, start swinging that cock, and take the reigns, or this place really will die. I hardly post as 95% of what I see posted is bullshit and unrelated to anything we do.

I will agree with you here though, this place is a joke these days (sorry gonzo), almost no business and all piss and fights