An observation on the current business...

[deviant]

Originally Posted by gonzo

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Oh yeah, I'd better watch what I say, I forgot mama bear can see me here.

Originally Posted by gonzo

First it was pop ups,free sites,circle jerks,TGPs,MGPs etc etc.

That's why I think tube sites are just the latest phase and will end up being nothing more than marketing for sites with real content. The reason I believe this is perhaps a little crass but think about it. What is the average consumer of this product doing? What is his or her motivation for pursuing this content? Does he/she really want to spend 10minutes looking for a short clip, then have to stop and wait while hunting for something else to put things back in business? After a while of this, I would imagine the consumer would grow tired, find a clip that they like, its source, and sign up there. Again, I could be wrong, but I think tube sites will become the next marketing strategy for paysites.

People who aren't going to pay for content, aren't going to pay for content. If it's not tube sites, it's torrents and peer-to-peer networks.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by deviant

...Does he/she really want to spend 10minutes looking for a short clip...

But... many of these tube site have much longer clips. 5, 10, 20 and even 30 minutes.

There's a huge difference between legal tube sites with approved sponsor clips and illegal tube sites with clips stolen from member areas.

Legal tube sites aren't really all that much different than MGP's. Illegal tube sites are another story entirely.

[ali25extreme]

I have been on the free sites..they are a quick fix but a huge mess. Quaility is worth paying for..that is the type of traffic I want anyway..those who know what they want and like what I offer! As long as I do my job correctly I should have no problem with the competition!

[DannyCox]

I have played around with various "tube" sites with Carol's videos. I have the one minute teaser's we use in the free area that I submit. These have the URL clearly on them. But how they really work I have no idea, as the problem is there is no tracking. You have to rely on people typing in the URL from what they see on the video, and you know how lazy most surfers are!

[deviant]

I actually just added a MGP style tube portion to my site, I import a series of 30 second flash movies and below each video provide a link to the sponsor's website where the viewer can download the whole clip. That's really the way to go. Otherwise, I agree, users are too lazy to type (seriously). There is also a way to implement clickable ads in the flash videos which is cool, how you do that, I'm not completely sure. I wouldn't want to host videos on my site if it wasn't easy to get back to the sponsor, it just seems like a loose loose situation.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by deviant

I actually just added a MGP style tube portion to my site, I import a series of 30 second flash movies and below each video provide a link to the sponsor's website where the viewer can download the whole clip. That's really the way to go. Otherwise, I agree, users are too lazy to type (seriously). There is also a way to implement clickable ads in the flash videos which is cool, how you do that, I'm not completely sure. I wouldn't want to host videos on my site if it wasn't easy to get back to the sponsor, it just seems like a loose loose situation.

Flash can run a blur...put the url in a window behind the active page. I can tell you I used to use that with the old asf video format MS had several years ago. It was a great way to monitize the old peer to peer traffic.