An observation on the current business...

[catfightreport]

Ron Paul!

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by catfightreport

Ron Paul!

Um.. Good luck with that

[catfightreport]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Um.. Good luck with that

lol.

yea.

I had to throw it out there anyway. haha.

[deviant]

Given the fact that I have been personally "researching" tube sites for some time, I don't think they have what it takes to destroy paysites. Usually the content is pretty lame and scattered. Paysites on the other hand generally follow a specific theme or niche, once you find a paysite that you like, you don't have to weed through a mountain of crap to find the content you like and time is money.

Unfortunately, I'm no expert.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by deviant

Given the fact that I have been personally "researching" tube sites for some time, I don't think they have what it takes to destroy paysites. Usually the content is pretty lame and scattered. Paysites on the other hand generally follow a specific theme or niche, once you find a paysite that you like, you don't have to weed through a mountain of crap to find the content you like and time is money.

Unfortunately, I'm no expert.

Devvvvvvvvv hahahaha

This arguement has been going on for sometime.
First it was pop ups,free sites,circle jerks,TGPs,MGPs etc etc.
While I do agree that this industry as a whole gives away way too much I hardly think that tube sites as a whole are going to destroy pay sites.

Program owners need to invest just as much effort as they do on those tours to the actual content in the members area.

Relying on a consumer to retain just because he forgets is lame when Im certain that if you give them what they expect and continue to update that monthly- the rebills will come in.

Its easier for program owners to complain that tube sites are destroying their busines than to issue a DCMA against some of these sites.

[deviant]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Devvvvvvvvv hahahaha

Oh yeah, I'd better watch what I say, I forgot mama bear can see me here.

Originally Posted by gonzo

First it was pop ups,free sites,circle jerks,TGPs,MGPs etc etc.

That's why I think tube sites are just the latest phase and will end up being nothing more than marketing for sites with real content. The reason I believe this is perhaps a little crass but think about it. What is the average consumer of this product doing? What is his or her motivation for pursuing this content? Does he/she really want to spend 10minutes looking for a short clip, then have to stop and wait while hunting for something else to put things back in business? After a while of this, I would imagine the consumer would grow tired, find a clip that they like, its source, and sign up there. Again, I could be wrong, but I think tube sites will become the next marketing strategy for paysites.

People who aren't going to pay for content, aren't going to pay for content. If it's not tube sites, it's torrents and peer-to-peer networks.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by deviant

...Does he/she really want to spend 10minutes looking for a short clip...

But... many of these tube site have much longer clips. 5, 10, 20 and even 30 minutes.

There's a huge difference between legal tube sites with approved sponsor clips and illegal tube sites with clips stolen from member areas.

Legal tube sites aren't really all that much different than MGP's. Illegal tube sites are another story entirely.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by deviant

...I have been personally "researching" tube sites for some time, I don't think they have what it takes to destroy paysites. Usually the content is pretty lame and scattered...

I'll agree with that to only a small degree. Tube sites are not nearly as big a threat to niche specific paysites as they are to general hardcore paysites. The niche specific video content is somewhat limited and therefore pretty much gets lost among the general hardcore on most tube sites.