Another observation on current business...

[Sexyteaser]

Originally Posted by Mediaguy

Shellee.

Mark never posts on here about you unless you first enter a thread with off-topic comments and accusations.

What you're doing is called "projection".

You're the one who hijacks all the threads one of us at 2much posts in with your friggin obsession; we only reply to your misrepresentations and distortions (sometimes).

This very thread is an example of you not being able to let go. Your post was about an account from LiveCamNetwork.com and not your site since that gift function is available only to LCN users, but you had to try to tie it in with the main spam theme we and the others here were discussing.

You know we don't spam. You know it's against our policy. So your statements are again deliberately misleading.

Now, no need to reply. Please. Let's get back on topic here and follow your suggestion to "stop subjecting everyone to our dirty laundry".

If you must reply, please explain why you think CAN-SPAM is unfair, and that spam is ok (as you posted in another thread).

I am sorry but I remember things very differently in every thread the insults towards me came from you and Mark first - if not please share an example where I started anything on here with an insult of you or your company first.

You admitted in another thread knowing that people who signed up as an affiliate for your licensees were spammed and you corrected it when it was brought to your attention and you blamed it on an error by ccbill.

In response to why I think CAN-SPAM is unfair is because I look at the general advertising practices across the board and why is it ok to have junk snail mail still and yet SPAM mail is targeted as illegal but none of these other practices are. I wish there was a better approach because sometimes i get mails that are spam that are advertisements that I find of value and appreciate. I think the law is a little too broad but as it applies to adult it is appropriate and beneficial in reducing adult material from reaching minors. The law is good when it applies to the abuse of technology but the amount of effort that goes into finding and prosecuting offenders brings us to selective prosecution to make a point (like the irs scaring us every April with some tax fraud case). There are people still spamming the law has worked in general to reduce spam but many factor the cost of a fine into their bottom line and others just keep doing it knowing they won't be found out or prosecuted because they stay under the radar of being a value case to the AG.

[2MuchMark]

Ok Shellee, whatever you say.

[Mediaguy]

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

I am sorry but I remember things very differently in every thread the insults towards me came from you and Mark first - if not please share an example where I started anything on here with an insult of you or your company first.

You may remember things differently, which shows you are more obsessed than actually have an axe to grind or an agenda.

You can just read the threads for yourself. I'm not going to bother posting the links here, but if someone has that time they'll see what I mean.

You don't consider accusations of hacking and outright theft as insulting perhaps. I do. The fact remains that when you start on those themes here and on other boards, they are vastly irrelevant to the thread subject.

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

You admitted in another thread knowing that people who signed up as an affiliate for your licensees were spammed and you corrected it when it was brought to your attention and you blamed it on an error by ccbill.

Again I might search for that thread but I never blamed CCBill for anything. It was my fault or my misunderstanding. A one-time mailing error does not make for spamming, nor constitute our policy, which is what you imply with your simple insinuations and false statements.

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

In response to why I think CAN-SPAM is unfair is because I look at the general advertising practices across the board and why is it ok to have junk snail mail still and yet SPAM mail is targeted as illegal but none of these other practices are. I wish there was a better approach because sometimes i get mails that are spam that are advertisements that I find of value and appreciate. I think the law is a little too broad but as it applies to adult it is appropriate and beneficial in reducing adult material from reaching minors. The law is good when it applies to the abuse of technology but the amount of effort that goes into finding and prosecuting offenders brings us to selective prosecution to make a point (like the irs scaring us every April with some tax fraud case). There are people still spamming the law has worked in general to reduce spam but many factor the cost of a fine into their bottom line and others just keep doing it knowing they won't be found out or prosecuted because they stay under the radar of being a value case to the AG.

That's a paragraph I respect and can respond to. There's validity to the point that snailspam is legal and email spam not.

I rarely if ever get anything in snail or e mail that I want or might want to file for future reference. Snail mail spam should be banned simply on an ecological basis. When I want something, I shop for it (or research or hunt or look up or what have you).

CAN-SPAM in my humble opinion has really stopped nothing. We may have caught a couple spammers but that's just millions of emails in a sea of billions.

I don't know if spam was ever a porn-specific problem. I actually get very little porn spam. It's all vuitton bags and fake rolexes, penis pills and nigerian scam spam. And obviously it comes from other countries, where you can probably go shop for spammers to spam for you.

I think I would simply not spam on an ethical basis.

Laws and other measures seem to serve nothing to prevent spamming so I really have little thought for them either way. You're probably right in saying we'd be better off spending our money elsewhere.

As for kids getting porn spam, I don't care. Porn is sex, sex is a natural human activity, and not as bad as the violence they get on the news, in sports and on their entertainment daily.

[sarettah]

I am not sure about this. mark agreed to not continue the stuff.

I assumed that his agreement included you.

Did it? Because if it did then that is your last post on it right?

[Mediaguy]

Originally Posted by sarettah

I am not sure about this. mark agreed to not continue the stuff.

I assumed that his agreement included you.

Did it? Because if it did then that is your last post on it right?

Well I read it but felt the cumpulsion to respond... and yes, in finality.

I did veer that last post back on topic, though... d'ja read it? Was it good? I liked it!

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by Mediaguy

Well I read it but felt the cumpulsion to respond... and yes, in finality.

I did veer that last post back on topic, though... d'ja read it? Was it good? I liked it!

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