Another observation on current business...

[Sexyteaser]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Sorry, what I mean is, is there anyone here who sells a product (say, Porn), and uses Spam to promote it - are you making sales from that Spam?

And speaking of Spam, most of the spam that I get is not porn related at all, but mostly for fake watches and viagra.

Would this be considered spam when it's received by one of your licencees users whom you have no right to be emaling or even if it is sent out to your own users, how do you comply with canadian spam laws?Hello! This is not spam. Someone from LiveCamNetwork.com has placed some funds in your e-wallet as a gift to you! From: to: Amount: $ has included the following message to you: -------------- These funds are in your account right now. You may use these funds to video-chat with any performer on LiveCamNetwork.com you like. To do so, simply go to http://www.LiveCamNetwork.com and log-in as usual, and you will see your new E-Wallet Balance. Thank you for choosing LiveCamNetwork.com! The 2Much Crewhttp://www.2Much.nethttp://www.LiveCamNetwork.comToll Free Technical Support: 1-866-662-6824

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

Would this be considered spam when it's received by one of your licencees users whom you have no right to be emaling or even if it is sent out to your own users, how do you comply with canadian spam laws?Hello! This is not spam. Someone from LiveCamNetwork.com has placed some funds in your e-wallet as a gift to you! From: to: Amount: $ has included the following message to you: -------------- These funds are in your account right now. You may use these funds to video-chat with any performer on LiveCamNetwork.com you like. To do so, simply go to http://www.LiveCamNetwork.com and log-in as usual, and you will see your new E-Wallet Balance. Thank you for choosing LiveCamNetwork.com! The 2Much Crewhttp://www.2Much.nethttp://www.LiveCamNetwork.comToll Free Technical Support: 1-866-662-6824

Hello Shellee,

2Much has a strict anti-spam policy. We do not spam ourselves, nor do we allow our customers to spam.

The message you are referring to above is generated whenever a paying customer gives a gift of money to another user on LiveCamNetwork.com The message can only be sent to one person, at a cost equal to the value of the gift.

So for example, if I am a LiveCamNetwork user and I want to give you transfer $20.00 from my e-wallet account balance to you, I would enter your username into the system as the recepient. The $20.00 is debited from my account and then deposited into your account, along with any message I care to send with the gift ("Happy Birthday! Spend it on Kedra, she's awesome!" for example).

You would receive the notice by email, and see this new money in your e-wallet. You could then spend it with Kedra or any other chat model you cared to chat with.

No Spam, no request for credit card info. And never once, a single complaint. And just to prove it, this one little module generates almost $20,000 a year in additional revenue, so we know alot of people are using it. It is just a simple way for users on LiveCamNetwork to give gifts to other users.

Sorry to dissapoint you, and sorry to prove that you are once again, wrong.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

Would this be considered spam when it's received by one of your licencees users whom you have no right to be emaling or even if it is sent out to your own users, how do you comply with canadian spam laws?Hello! This is not spam. Someone from LiveCamNetwork.com has placed some funds in your e-wallet as a gift to you! From: to: Amount: $ has included the following message to you: -------------- These funds are in your account right now. You may use these funds to video-chat with any performer on LiveCamNetwork.com you like. To do so, simply go to http://www.LiveCamNetwork.com and log-in as usual, and you will see your new E-Wallet Balance. Thank you for choosing LiveCamNetwork.com! The 2Much Crewhttp://www.2Much.nethttp://www.LiveCamNetwork.comToll Free Technical Support: 1-866-662-6824

Shellee, what are you the internet police? Personally, I think you are the type of person that would run to the IRS or the FBI snitch lines just to get "even" with your competition. You have to be about the lowest bottom feeder I have seen on boards. You imply threats. You spend hours poring over other's businesses looking for something to rant about and possibly report to authorities. I hate rats. You are your own little version of Homeland Security permanently on red alert. I have always despised people like you and your Republican tactics.
I have to disagree with Gonzo on this, but I would ban your ass and let you puke your poison on other boards. You are crossing all kinds of lines. This ain't business for you anymore, its some kind of twisted retribution.
In a sentence, "You make me sick".

[Sexyteaser]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Shellee, what are you the internet police? Personally, I think you are the type of person that would run to the IRS or the FBI snitch lines just to get "even" with your competition. You have to be about the lowest bottom feeder I have seen on boards. You imply threats. You spend hours poring over other's businesses looking for something to rant about and possibly report to authorities. I hate rats. You are your own little version of Homeland Security permanently on red alert. I have always despised people like you and your Republican tactics.
I have to disagree with Gonzo on this, but I would ban your ass and let you puke your poison on other boards. You are crossing all kinds of lines. This ain't business for you anymore, its some kind of twisted retribution.
In a sentence, "You make me sick".

One of my customers received that email and so it went out as spam to pull my user to LCN and not as Mark so eloquently explained. Are you for Mark Prince spamming my users when I am paying a license fee, hosting fee, revshare and marketing and advertising cost to get those users? Is this what you think is ethical and that the victim should keep her mouth shut.

I have a pam email that went to an affiliate from LCNCash right after they signed up on sexyteaser as well; but Greg explained this was do to an error on ccbill's part and they corrected it.

How hypocritical are you to stand in support of a spammer when you say you can't stand spammers. Then, piss on me for speaking out against this unethical behavior I experienced while attempting to start my first adult project. Do you need more proof call any one of these program owners and see how well they did working with 2much.net with a nearly 85% failure rate I am not the only person out there that was taken by them.

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Why don't you take Mark up on his free offer and see if your happy a few months from now. He has 10 years of experience and sometimes one or two girls online and will give you all the help you need to get started.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

One of my customers received that email and so it went out as spam to pull my user to LCN and not as Mark so eloquently explained. Are you for Mark Prince spamming my users when I am paying a license fee, hosting fee, revshare and marketing and advertising cost to get those users? Is this what you think is ethical and that the victim should keep her mouth shut.

I have a pam email that went to an affiliate from LCNCash right after they signed up on sexyteaser as well; but Greg explained this was do to an error on ccbill's part and they corrected it.

How hypocritical are you to stand in support of a spammer when you say you can't stand spammers. Then, piss on me for speaking out against this unethical behavior I experienced while attempting to start my first adult project. Do you need more proof call any one of these program owners and see how well they did working with 2much.net with a nearly 85% failure rate I am not the only person out there that was taken by them.

www.primalsecrets.com
www.xxxstrippercams.com
www.livehotcamz.com
www.realmuscle.tv
www.bodbay.com
www.365livecams.com
www.euroticalive.com
www.southerngirlslive.com
www.bkslive.com
www.icutoocams.com
www.orgasmwebkams.com
www.girlsgonecam.com
www.livehotcamz.com
www.cambabez.com
www.easycyberdate.com
www.livemuscleshow.com
www.livesexydolls.com
www.livebabes.com



Why don't you take Mark up on his free offer and see if your happy a few months from now. He has 10 years of experience and sometimes one or two girls online and will give you all the help you need to get started.

You are boring as a mudfart. Go take your sad business where someone cares. If you have problems with these people, get in touch with them.
I don't give a rat's ass about you or your business. I don't care how much money you make. I don't even care if every spammer on the planet descends on you and crashes your server. I don't even care if you get google bombed from a really high altitude. I don't care if you get pissed on by 2muchMark or anyone else on this board. In fact I kinda wish you had never shown up puking poison and verbal vomit everywhere you go. I don't care if lightning strikes your house and it burns to the ground. I don't care if an Earthquake hits Seattle and yours is the only place that sinks into the fucking Pacific Ocean. I don't care if a plague of locusts descends on your yard and turns the sun black. I don't care if your sewers back up and short circuit your entire network.
Apart from that, I wish you had never been born.
But I can only speak for myself.

[Sexyteaser]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

You are boring as a mudfart. Go take your sad business where someone cares. If you have problems with these people, get in touch with them.
I don't give a rat's ass about you or your business. I don't care how much money you make. I don't even care if every spammer on the planet descends on you and crashes your server. I don't even care if you get google bombed from a really high altitude. I don't care if you get pissed on by 2muchMark or anyone else on this board. In fact I kinda wish you had never shown up puking poison and verbal vomit everywhere you go. I don't care if lightning strikes your house and it burns to the ground. I don't care if an Earthquake hits Seattle and yours is the only place that sinks into the fucking Pacific Ocean. I don't care if a plague of locusts descends on your yard and turns the sun black. I don't care if your sewers back up and short circuit your entire network.
Apart from that, I wish you had never been born.
But I can only speak for myself.

You must care; you took all the time to write it....

Face your demons
Don't Waiver
Do no retreat!

If you don't renounce what's false you can't accomplish whats true.

Your stellar at sitting in judgement. All that energy of yours is defenitely focussed on something (me) and there is one thing for sure it was time wasted because I don't think anyone wrote you a check to post it and that's a clue..

[softball]

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

You must care; you took all the time to write it....

Face your demons
Don't Waiver
Do no retreat!

If you don't renounce what's false you can't accomplish whats true.

Your stellar at sitting in judgement. All that energy of yours is defenitely focussed on something (me) and there is one thing for sure it was time wasted because I don't think anyone wrote you a check to post it and that's a clue..

LOL, Shellee, you are a yo yo now and I am just walking the dog, dude.

BTW, I was going to call you a cunt, but had second thoughts about being so crude. I realized that that would be an insult to all the cunts in the world. At least they are useful.

[2MuchMark]

ShelleeHale,

It is time to give up, lady. We do not spam not only because I personally hate spam, but also because (a) I don't believe that it works, and more important (b) because it is the against the Terms of Service we have with our upstream provider, MCI / Worldcom, a company that we have enjoyed working with for over 7 years now.

If we spammed, Shellee, copy/paste the email WITH the HEADER information included with that email as proof. Let's see, Little Ms. Microsoft, if you even know what the header information even is, and how it can be used to catch real spammers.

Now for the last fucking time, shut the fuck up.. Go run your own fucking websites and leave 2Much, TooMuch, Topbucks, and everyone else the fuck alone.

[softball]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

ShelleeHale,

It is time to give up, lady. We do not spam not only because I personally hate spam, but also because (a) I don't believe that it works, and more important (b) because it is the against the Terms of Service we have with our upstream provider, MCI / Worldcom, a company that we have enjoyed working with for over 7 years now.

If we spammed, Shellee, copy/paste the email WITH the HEADER information included with that email as proof. Let's see, Little Ms. Microsoft, if you even know what the header information even is, and how it can be used to catch real spammers.

Now for the last fucking time, shut the fuck up.. Go run your own fucking websites and leave 2Much, TooMuch, Topbucks, and everyone else the fuck alone.

Never happen Mark. It can't do that. It can't stop posting. It is running on pure hatred at the moment and it can't see anyway out. You watch, it will return.

BTW, where do I get this free cam thingy for my avatar?

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

Why don't you take Mark up on his free offer and see if your happy a few months from now. He has 10 years of experience and sometimes one or two girls online and will give you all the help you need to get started.

This is a great idea!
Everyone that does get this free offer please report back!
How many girls are online right now?

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by gonzo

This is a great idea!
Everyone that does get this free offer please report back!
How many girls are online right now?

Gonzo,

The "Free Offer" is not to everyone, sorry. Read my posts on the other thread if you forgot who the offer was for.

I suggest you worry less about our program, and instead worry about how to make a backup of your bbs so you don't lose 3 days worth of data again the next time you do an "update".

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Gonzo,

The "Free Offer" is not to everyone, sorry. Read my posts on the other thread if you forgot who the offer was for.

I suggest you worry less about our program, and instead worry about how to make a backup of your bbs so you don't lose 3 days worth of data again the next time you do an "update".

Hahahahaha

You all owe me a dozen. I told you he had a big mouth and was scared to open it up for everyone on here.

Of course if I was him I wouldnt want this bunch on here taking a closer look at what I was up to either.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Hahahahaha

You all owe me a dozen. I told you he had a big mouth and was scared to open it up for everyone on here.

Of course if I was him I wouldnt want this bunch on here taking a closer look at what I was up to either.

Gonzo:

In this thread,

http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/showthread.php?t=90263

I said:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

If you like, we can setup a demonstration of each of the various components of the system to show you how it all works.

Then, If you like what you see and would like to refer a customer our way, we could then setup a system for them completely free of charge to do a "real" test for say, 30 days or so.

This way you will discover what all of the strengths of the LiveCamNetwork system are. Your customer will then know if its worth buying or not, and you will know if you want to referr additional customers our way or not.

Nowhere do I say that this is open to YOU or to ALL. This is an offer to Sarettah. Allow us to at least qualify who we give out demo's and free samples to.