An observation on the current business...

[DannyCox]

They don't really have converting traffic at all, they just manipulate a lot of it well. They throw enough at a program in hopes that some will stick. You'll get lots of traffic, but the conversion ratios are low. Lots of blinds and old fashioned circle jerk stuff.

But as I mentioned, they will get what they ask for as the sheep over at the zoo will just fall in line. A smart program would call them on it, and probably are in private. As we all know, real business is never done on the boards.

[softball]

Originally Posted by DannyCox

They don't really have converting traffic at all, they just manipulate a lot of it well. They throw enough at a program in hopes that some will stick. You'll get lots of traffic, but the conversion ratios are low. Lots of blinds and old fashioned circle jerk stuff.

But as I mentioned, they will get what they ask for as the sheep over at the zoo will just fall in line. A smart program would call them on it, and probably are in private. As we all know, real business is never done on the boards.

Shit I do all my business on the boards.....lol......
I do think, like I said, the first adopters will do ok. Its like the price of gasoline. They send it up to a buck thirty seven a liter and then we all think a buck twenty is a bargain. It is freeking altered reality. Sorry about the metric for our American friends, but gallons don't mean a lot to me anymore.

But I do think they crossed some lines. The good news is, a lot of people are going to disappear in the next six months and what is going to replace them will not be as good. I have never really thought that until now.

[helix]

Originally Posted by DannyCox

They don't really have converting traffic at all, they just manipulate a lot of it well. They throw enough at a program in hopes that some will stick. You'll get lots of traffic, but the conversion ratios are low. Lots of blinds and old fashioned circle jerk stuff.

But as I mentioned, they will get what they ask for as the sheep over at the zoo will just fall in line. A smart program would call them on it, and probably are in private. As we all know, real business is never done on the boards.

As the "sheep" knuckle under we will witness the thinning of the herd. Culling of the weak and feeble will be a good thing for the industry. Too many substandard paysites and unsustainable tube business models eating at the customer base for too long. I think this is just the beginning. We have already seen some consolidation and some absorption of minor sites to flesh out the niches of the smarter, bigger, well managed sites, ie DeeCash. I really think we will see a huge turnover and churning in the industry in the next few months. It will make for an interesting show for sure.

[DragonKing]

Chicken Little Rears His Little Ugly Head
Once Again ....


He makes more Cameos in this business than Puffy in a Bad Boy Video.

[softball]

Originally Posted by DragonKing

Chicken Little Rears His Little Ugly Head
Once Again ....


He makes more Cameos in this business than Puffy in a Bad Boy Video.

I had a feeling this post too would reappear. However, this is a different situation than previous sky crashing situations. The US economy will prolly never recover its total dominance thanks to the last 8 years of breath taking spending. The dollar is weaker than its been in decades....if ever. Gas prices are approaching the scary numbers of the gas "crisis" of the 70's. All that is left to put the icing on the cake is inflation. I recall when the price of butter tripled in a month.
This time chicken little has a few more arrows in his quiver. The previous doomsayers were more worried about free porn and 2257 which was always a non starter in my books and I posted pretty much what you just said, DK. But there are bigger influences at work today. I don't think everything is going to crash and burn for everybody, but the heady days are over. The "soft" landing has arrived and this time, those who don't have good traffic and good product are facing some serious problems (I have always hated challenge as a euphemism).
So I don't think this is necessarily an "end of the world" observation, but times are not as optimistic and opportunities not as easily available, and yes only the strong will survive. You see I do believe in Darwin.

[softball]

Banner Headline in my local paper today was World Wide Food Crisis. Here is a bit of the article....

Soaring prices on everything from food to gasoline walloped consumers Thursday as the Bank of Canada warned of weaker economic growth to come -- new evidence the U.S. recession has deepened and is dragging down other sectors of the economy as it continues to slide.
Basic food items are becoming more scarce and the price of those commodities is soaring, matched only by the rapid increase in the cost of gasoline. Food shortages, hoarding by producing countries and a pernicious cycle of energy prices driving up production costs are only making the situation worse.
Maple Leaf Foods Inc., one of Canada's largest food processors, reported a loss on Thursday due to soaring costs for grain used in its bakeries and hog barns.
View Larger ImageA worker in Laos shows rice at a mill this week. The price of rice is up 50 per cent, triggering a crisis.





"These are stunningly, stunningly challenging and unique times," chief executive Michael McCain told shareholders at the company's annual meeting.
"The world is embroiled with absorbing the implications of the simple truth that food will be considerably more expensive, well into the future," he said.
Food riots have spread from Haiti to Thailand and panic buying has even hit North America -- Wal-Mart has imposed rice rationing in the United States because of shrinking supplies and Bruce Cran, president of the Consumers Association of Canada, said he was told that store shelves were being emptied of rice in British Columbia.

This state of fear is what is fueling Chicken Little and this time we all have to deal with it.

[Rcourt64]

The "I hope his dick still gets hard again tomorrow" sales strategies is
what your fuckers need to be looking at, not what the price of rice is...

[Robert]

Nitwit....

[miz_wright]

Originally Posted by Rcourt64

The "I hope his dick still gets hard again tomorrow" sales strategies is
what your fuckers need to be looking at, not what the price of rice is...

He'll be yankin' his crank tomorrow, regardless. The question is: does he pay for the spank bank, or grab something free?

When the decision comes down between food or petrol, fewer will say "Oh, I'll totally shell out for the new PornStar Update."

'm pretty sure that was his point. But I may be mistaken.

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by Rcourt64

The "I hope his dick still gets hard again tomorrow" sales strategies is
what your fuckers need to be looking at, not what the price of rice is...

Spelling, grammar, and sentence structure, should also be high on the list.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by DannyCox

They don't really have converting traffic at all, they just manipulate a lot of it well. They throw enough at a program in hopes that some will stick. You'll get lots of traffic, but the conversion ratios are low. Lots of blinds and old fashioned circle jerk stuff.

But as I mentioned, they will get what they ask for as the sheep over at the zoo will just fall in line. A smart program would call them on it, and probably are in private. As we all know, real business is never done on the boards.

Ahhhh Danny Cox wise man!
Why programs allow affiliates to dictate their business model is beyond me.
70% rev share --- only a MORON would give that away instead of going out and buying their own traffic.

I think affilaites got into this habit back with all the rules you had to follow to get your TGP listed with some of the post owners.

They lose sight of the fact that a post owner is there to make THEMSELVES money FIRST and anyone else DEAD LAST.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by gonzo

...They lose sight of the fact that a post owner is there to make THEMSELVES money FIRST and anyone else DEAD LAST.

As Tommy says, "1 for them, 2 for me."