Too Much Media vs. NR Media....

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by sarettah

I think he is asking: What is your interest in all this? You have been quite vocal about it. Do they owe you money? Do/did you have to change out a shit load of links? What exactly is your stake in this whole thing?

I think hes over here on the side of the truth bench.
Those depos and the missing ones are pretty telling and I think we have only just begun with this.

Latest quote I heard was that the new allegations were NOT about paying webmasters -whom have been owed for 2 years - but are about mitigating damages to Naked Rhino.

Even AFF is smart enough to pay off some webmasters but I cant even begin how to fathom the logic of not paying your promo partners or thinking that anyone will ever promote them again.

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by gonzo

I think hes over here on the side of the truth bench.

Hmm, so Jace can't answer for himself anymore eh? Except for smilies I guess.

I haven't seen it that way. I do not know any of the folks involved in any way so have no idea about any of them except what I got from the depos (and I read all of them all the way through).

From the start of this, Jace has been slamming on Chris and Tracy. He acts as if he has inside info, has no apparent personal stake in it and still continues to feed the innuendo machine. So, I think it is a fair question.

If he is on the side of the truth, then he should not be so one sided about it.

Just imho of course.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Hmm, so Jace can't answer for himself anymore eh? Except for smilies I guess.

I haven't seen it that way. I do not know any of the folks involved in any way so have no idea about any of them except what I got from the depos (and I read all of them all the way through).

From the start of this, Jace has been slamming on Chris and Tracy. He acts as if he has inside info, has no apparent personal stake in it and still continues to feed the innuendo machine. So, I think it is a fair question.

If he is on the side of the truth, then he should not be so one sided about it.

Just imho of course.

Fair enough response to me! I am certainly interested to see how all this shakes out. It may seem Im piling on Chris and Tracy.

Im not.

I just cant see any excuse for several things that Ive read so far.
The main one being not paying affiliates.

Maybe theres something left out that I havent seen yet.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Hmm, so Jace can't answer for himself anymore eh? Except for smilies I guess.

I haven't seen it that way. I do not know any of the folks involved in any way so have no idea about any of them except what I got from the depos (and I read all of them all the way through).

From the start of this, Jace has been slamming on Chris and Tracy. He acts as if he has inside info, has no apparent personal stake in it and still continues to feed the innuendo machine. So, I think it is a fair question.

If he is on the side of the truth, then he should not be so one sided about it.

Just imho of course.

you want the truth??? you can HANDLE the truth!!!!!

haha

seriously, the most I can say publicly is that Angel and Vegas are VERY good friends of ours....we have been through a lot with them, and anyone that knows how honest I am, can be sure they are on the exact same level

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by Jace

you want the truth??? you can HANDLE the truth!!!!!

haha

seriously, the most I can say publicly is that Angel and Vegas are VERY good friends of ours....we have been through a lot with them, and anyone that knows how honest I am, can be sure they are on the exact same level

On the same level eh? So, you've served time in the federal pen? And you would sell a laptop that you don't own on ebay?

[Jace]

and now for the long version

sorry, had to type it all out

Was I an affiliate of Xclusive Cash, yes, can I tell if money were owe to me, don't know because obviously the site is all gone now so I guess you can considered that as a personal interest ... Before all this happened I've never had any problems with Chris or Tracey other wise I wouldn't have joined their program, but when some of my friends are owed money and it doesn't look like they have any intentions of paying, yea I'm gonna take sides and I'm gonna defend on what I think it's right

after reading the deposition, even Chris said in his own words, this is not about paying back the affiliates it's about what was posted on GFY, translates... rebill issues, affiliate payouts.. not my concern, I just wanna know where's my 5 million

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by Jace

after reading the deposition, even Chris said in his own words, this is not about paying back the affiliates it's about what was posted on GFY, translates... rebill issues, affiliate payouts.. not my concern, I just wanna know where's my 5 million

Yeah, he said that the lawsuit and deposition were not about the affiliates, and he was right. It is a defamation case, it is not a case of him suing on behalf of the affiliates or the affiliates suing.

So, for answering the question honestly, he doesn't care if he ever pays the affiliates eh?

You sure get more out of a paragraph then I do.

[Jace]

yea so why wouldn't you take it personally when your friends are NOT being paid and NR's done nothing to address that issue

[Jace]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Yeah, he said that the lawsuit and deposition were not about the affiliates, and he was right. It is a defamation case, it is not a case of him suing on behalf of the affiliates or the affiliates suing.

So, for answering the question honestly, he doesn't care if he ever pays the affiliates eh?

You sure get more out of a paragraph then I do.

there is SO much more to that lawsuit than a defamation case and you know it

if you think the only outcome is going to be someone gets justice for some bad words they said, then you really need to go back and re-read what is really going on

[Jace]

Originally Posted by sarettah

On the same level eh? So, you've served time in the federal pen? And you would sell a laptop that you don't own on ebay?

When I was 18 I got caught stealing credit cards out of mailboxes, I was arrested and charged with 31 counts of fraudulent use with a credit card and 21 counts of theft of mail matter...all dropped to misdemeanor due to it being my first offense

when I was 21-24 I was a pretty crazy cocaine dealer, I was selling on average 2-3 ounces a week and was known where I was as "the coke guy"...that ended when I was 24 when the DEA busted down my door and charged me with intent to distribute and posession, all they could find was a gram of cocaine and some bunk ecstasy pills

in total since I was 18 I have been to jail 8 times

since then I have shaped my life in a better direction, am I still a hooligan every once and a while, sure! what is life without breaking a few rules?

as for that laptop they claimed he stole, he was given a list of things to give back to NR, EVERY single thing that was listed was returned, the laptop wasn't and because all their cash was gone from a business being pulled out from under them, he sold it to make ends meet

[Jace]

and btw, blake have NEVER been anything but up front and honest about doing time, if you ask he will tell you...he will also tell you that period of his life is LONG GONE, and anyone that does business with him KNOWS THAT without a doubt

[Jace]

Originally Posted by Jace

the laptop wasn't and because all their cash was gone from a business being pulled out from under them, he sold it to make ends meet

oh wait, let me rephrase that, maybe not to make ends me because after all Chris suggested that Blake stole $209K right????

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by Jace

as for that laptop they claimed he stole, he was given a list of things to give back to NR, EVERY single thing that was listed was returned, the laptop wasn't and because all their cash was gone from a business being pulled out from under them, he sold it to make ends meet

I never saw anything where they claimed he stole it. I saw where he was asked if he tried to sell a laptop that he had gotten from the company on ebay and he said that yes he did.

So, if someone forgets to ask you for something back then it is ok for you to sell it?

[Jace]

Originally Posted by sarettah

I never saw anything where they claimed he stole it. I saw where he was asked if he tried to sell a laptop that he had gotten from the company on ebay and he said that yes he did.

So, if someone forgets to ask you for something back then it is ok for you to sell it?

was that in the desposition,? Chris forgot to ask for it back? If you sell your house and during the contract signing the fridge is not on the list of items being sold do you as a buyer come back later and say oh sorry that fridge is mine? I forgot to put it in the contract

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Even AFF is smart enough to pay off some webmasters but I cant even begin how to fathom the logic of not paying your promo partners or thinking that anyone will ever promote them again.

Looks like (according to Chris) he tried to pay at least something to some of them:

[Jace]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Looks like (according to Chris) he tried to pay at least something to some of them:

So, he made that offer to 3 affiliates and that supposed to make him look like he's doing the right thing? It's one thing if Chris had made this offer to ALL the affiliates, then yea I can see an attempt has been made to make things right and maybe more people would be on their side of the fences, but not once since all this happened he's made a public statement with that offer, as matter of fact when asked how was xclusive cash terminated... "humm we took off the html pages?" WTF where's the press release for that? I didn't know that's how programs are terminated these days.. screw you and your existing codes, it's gone see ya!

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by Jace

So, he made that offer to 3 affiliates and that supposed to make him look like he's doing the right thing? It's one thing if Chris had made this offer to ALL the affiliates, then yea I can see an attempt has been made to make things right and maybe more people would be on their side of the fences, but not once since all this happened he's made a public statement with that offer, as matter of fact when asked how was xclusive cash terminated... "humm we took off the html pages?" WTF where's the press release for that? I didn't know that's how programs are terminated these days.. screw you and your existing codes, it's gone see ya!

That was in response to Gonzo's statement:

Originally Posted by gonzo
Even AFF is smart enough to pay off some webmasters but I cant even begin how to fathom the logic of not paying your promo partners or thinking that anyone will ever promote them again.

But, you wouldn't be you in this matter if you weren't taking shit out of context.

Must be that honest streak you have

[Hell Puppy]

It's official.

I'm bored with this whole thing.