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Old 03-30-2008   #1
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"If it has artistic value, then it's not obscene," said St. Petersburg attorney Brandon Kolb, who's running the show at Porn Camp. "You're not hiring people to perform a sexual activity. You're hiring people to perform their interpretation of a theatrical role."
Don't laugh. In 1989, the California supreme court ruled that participants in an adult film were doing it solely for the money, not their own sexual gratification, and therefore couldn't face prostitution or pandering charges.
The case, California vs. Freeman, helped solidify the state's status as a porn mecca. In the years since, officials elsewhere have been loath to pursue similar charges against porn producers, lest their states become similar hotbeds of X-rated action.
It really surprises me when an attorney promotes something he knows is at least questionable legally.

You CANNOT contract for sexual activity in Florida. First Amendment may be a great defense for Ray Guhn, but it cannot be used in contractual relations between private parties.

The Florida courts will not enforce illegal contracts and will find them void.

Freeman only protects content production in California, criminally and contractually.

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Old 03-30-2008   #2
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It really surprises me when an attorney promotes something he knows is at least questionable legally.

You CANNOT contract for sexual activity in Florida. First Amendment may be a great defense for Ray Guhn, but it cannot be used in contractual relations between private parties.

The Florida courts will not enforce illegal contracts and will find them void.

Freeman only protects content production in California, criminally and contractually.

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No offense Michael but Id hire a lawyer for legal advice not on anything else.
The camp is a good idea...however I think its a lot of hype and just fucking overpriced.

Maybe Ill get with Mike South and a few others in Atlanta I know that DO know what they are talking about a run a porn camp.
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So now I gotta ask here? viewing your replies?
What's the difference between this form of producing material? and the difference between them overseas sweat shops?
I mean its the same basic system of an illegal abused working system correct?
Have them produce the product or content, pay them shit on the dollar, and then sell it "a la Americana" 100 times over.

Hmmm, Is that Kathy Lee Gifford involved in this porn camp somewhere?
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It really surprises me when an attorney promotes something he knows is at least questionable legally.

You CANNOT contract for sexual activity in Florida. First Amendment may be a great defense for Ray Guhn, but it cannot be used in contractual relations between private parties.

The Florida courts will not enforce illegal contracts and will find them void.

Freeman only protects content production in California, criminally and contractually.

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Can we explore that a minute?
While I understand your point about freeman protecting CA production, has there been case law in Florida to back that up? (I really don't know, I'm asking.)

If not, then is there a specific law "outlawing" it?
Even if so, has that been challenged?
(On the theory that no law, is really a law, until a Jury decides it is?)
At what point do we cross the "local jurisdiction/obscenity" line? How much of Florida would be covered?


And all that is off the point of, they shouldn't be running a seminar that isn't based on a secure footing. But I'm sure they snake around that with disclaimers.
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has there been case law in Florida to back that up? (I really don't know, I'm asking.)

If not, then is there a specific law "outlawing" it?
Even if so, has that been challenged?
(On the theory that no law, is really a law, until a Jury decides it is?)
No, there's no case law in Florida that I am aware that would protect content production. Ray Guhn could be the first.

Prostitution laws "outlaw" the commercial private trade of sex for money.

Shooting content is a commercial contract of sex for money.

I know of no case other than Freeman that legally protects and defines content production and differentiates it from prostitution.

There very well could be a First Amendment right to content production, but that will probably not factor into a contractual dispute between private parties.

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