Too Much Media vs. NR Media....

[Toby]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

If you take Chris's view, it would appear that he got pissy basically because John wanted to go into NATS and assign payable values to webmasters, at his own discretion. But that is what I got from reading Chris' deposition.

Yes, and Chris also claims no prior knowledge of the rebill problem beyond the brief mention of it in one yahoo chat with Blake

Blake on the other hand details several conversations with Chris regarding the repulls being done over time to avoid serious cash flow issues.

I guess it comes down to which story you find more credible.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by Toby

Yes, and Chris also claims no prior knowledge of the rebill problem beyond the brief mention of it in one yahoo chat with Blake

Blake on the other hand details several conversations with Chris regarding the repulls being done over time to avoid serious cash flow issues.

I guess it comes down to which story you find more credible.

I know what side of the fence I am on, then again I am pretty biased

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Jace

I know what side of the fence I am on, then again I am pretty biased

When a solution was presented for making the necessary data available so that affiliates could be paid, and it was summarily dismissed, that pretty much tipped the scales for me.

[gonzo]

Im on the side of the truth.

Im still trying to get my head around this fact.
Half a million dollars in one year amd the affiliates still havent been paid yet?

Unless Im missing something John was going to open access so they could pay out in hopes of resolving this dispute?

Its going to take all weekend to digest this becasue I cant get past the fact that affliates STILL havent been paid.

Why?

I can see Chris's arguement that we pay NATS to keep us straight - even though NATS is a cascading billing system in reality.

Why havent affilaites been paid after 2 years?

[gonzo]

Several of us are still digesting these PDFs... have another point that I dont understand...

The suit claims $5 million dollars worth of damage based as the company's value. I ask along with the lawyer why Blake/Amy were only paid $5000 for their 50% ?

This doesnt add up either.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Several of us are still digesting these PDFs... have another point that I dont understand...

The suit claims $5 million dollars worth of damage based as the company's value. I ask along with the lawyer why Blake/Amy were only paid $5000 for their 50% ?

This doesnt add up either.

Must be that new math. I wonder if the IRS has been reading along?

[RawAlex]

From what I could understand, NATS wasn't so much going to give access as "provide numbers" or provide a limited dataset access.

Where I get a little confused on all this is Blake and the 9 epass accounts. Were the rebillings occurring and then all getting paid off to Blake instead of to the webmasters? Was Blake using his access to the systems to somehow skim rebills? Is there a theoretical half million sitting in an account somewhere unpaid, or was it filtered off to someone else? If the totals still added up, why would NATS get involved?

Where did the money go?

On the other side of the coin, the amount claimed is steep, but if the company was turning half a million a year, it is ALMOST justifiable. But then the $5000 buyout for 50% of the company sort of negates it, unless Blake and Amy were getting paid in some other manner (see the "shave" above).

In the end, even if NR was a pretty weird setup, there is likely very little way to excuse John's outbursts on the boards which almost certainly tarnished some reputations.