Naked Rhino VS NATS

[will76]

Originally Posted by pam

Will, go over to MP and ask how many there weren't paid and many of those who weren't paid will speak up as they have in the past.

I've looked around actually and it seems like the same 2 or 3 people screaming. I am assuming they have 100's of affiliates.

I know how these situations go from promoting clickcash for so long, a couple pissed off people will scream "scam" and then others like Toby in this thread will say " wow they scammed lots of people" and the more people see that and think it is fact etc. etc...

It doesn't make sense for NR to spend tons of money to clear their name and then not pay some of their affiliates how much money? I bet a lot lot less then what they are paying in attorney fees.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by will76

I've looked around actually and it seems like the same 2 or 3 people screaming. I am assuming they have 100's of affiliates.

I know how these situations go from promoting clickcash for so long, a couple pissed off people will scream "scam" and then others like Toby in this thread will say " wow they scammed lots of people" and the more people see that and think it is fact etc. etc...

It doesn't make sense for NR to spend tons of money to clear their name and then not pay some of their affiliates how much money? I bet a lot lot less then what they are paying in attorney fees.

It was a whole lot more than just 2 or 3, and I've not seen a post by any XclusiveCash affiliate saying that they've been paid.

You're coming into this conversation rather late to just be assuming I'm talking out my of ass. I assure you I'm not, and the response by others here has backed that up.

[will76]

Originally Posted by Toby

It was a whole lot more than just 2 or 3, and I've not seen a post by any XclusiveCash affiliate saying that they've been paid.

You're coming into this conversation rather late to just be assuming I'm talking out my of ass. I assure you I'm not, and the response by others here has backed that up.

you people are something else. one person says it was 10, but can only name 1 publicly, another one says it was a "whole lot more than 2 or 3".

People usually make posts when they are happy and have been paid, lol. I see that all the time, everyone who gets paid runs to the board to post LOLOL. More like the other way around a handfull who haven't been paid or feel they were wronged or whatever the situation was that made them unhappy will make posts saying how they were screwed and then people who have nothing to do it pick it up and run with it.... great case in point with you.

[will76]

Originally Posted by Toby

It was a whole lot more than just 2 or 3, and I've not seen a post by any XclusiveCash affiliate saying that they've been paid.

You're coming into this conversation rather late to just be assuming I'm talking out my of ass. I assure you I'm not, and the response by others here has backed that up.

Guys why can't i get a straight answer here.

Sorry " no one got paid" or " i can't tell you who" is rediculas replies.

Toby I don't know you, i am not going to take your word for it. Which god knows what caused you to form this opinion, probably something you heard someone else saying.

Ibill fucked a lot of people, a lot of people posted saying they were fucked and how much. Why is this situation so different? No one will posted that they are owed money only that they know lots of people who are but no one will posts names. You keep saying "none of their affiliates have been paid", "its a lot more than 2 or 3". HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS ?

did you see these people post here or somewhere else? If so why can you post who it is then, it would be public knowledge, or are the same "secret people" the same ones that Jace knows, those 10 plus people who claim they havent been paid but they dont want to keep it quiet. (makese no sense).

Why can't people just give straight answers ?

[helix]

My friend has an uncle in Florida that heard of a fella in that town....I forget the name, but he had a nephew who was married to this gal Jill that had a brother that was owed like 25k or so I hear.
Hope that helps

I don't know of anybody.

[will76]

Originally Posted by helix

My friend has an uncle in Florida that heard of a fella in that town....I forget the name, but he had a nephew who was married to this gal Jill that had a brother that was owed like 25k or so I hear.
Hope that helps

I don't know of anybody.

now that is the kind of proof i was looking for. Ok now I think NR is garbage. lol j/k

[CraigT]

I tend to agree with the line of thought.

For the contrary side... here is what i heard...


I heard Naked Rhino contacted their affiliates, and since Nats had shut them out of the system, they asked the affiliates what were they owed.

Even though they were closed, they paid the affiliates based on what they were told by the affiliates out of the own pockets. I also know that a lot of these affiliates still work with Naked Rhino's new program to this day...

I also heard that a few affiliates couldn't be paid. So you have to ask yourself, why would they pay some affiliates but not all. From my experience in the billing world, their are some hard and fast rules as to why you pay affiliates, and why you don't , and the reasons are ever pretty about the affiliate. There are always two sides to every story.

I also notice it is the exact same people who bash one side...without any desire to hear the other side. This always concerns me when one side is always presented without hearing the other side.

I too have been around the block, and I too don't make posts or allegations lightly. I have not come into this argument lately, I just tend to watch a lot of the bashing that people do with getting involved.

There are some very hard accusations here on both sides. Where is the proof, and what happens when the minority speak for the majority. The one thing I think is going to happen for certain is when the information comes out, (it usually does) it won't be pretty, and will cause some to have to rethink their opinions. I am glad people take sides, I think too much apathy is certainly a bad thing. Just be careful before choosing sides.

[Sexyteaser]

Originally Posted by CraigT

I tend to agree with the line of thought.

For the contrary side... here is what i heard...


I heard Naked Rhino contacted their affiliates, and since Nats had shut them out of the system, they asked the affiliates what were they owed.

I wish I had a Naked Rhino right now I would load it the truck and drop it off on someone's front yard.... OMG I just did not give that idea away.

[Jace]

Originally Posted by CraigT

I heard Naked Rhino contacted their affiliates, and since Nats had shut them out of the system, they asked the affiliates what were they owed.

first time I heard that one

and as for posting what others are owed based on private conversations with them is not something I do, sorry will...if I had seen some of these people post on the boards I would say their names in a heartbeat, but this was told me in private, and it will stay that way unless I am advised otherwise

[CraigT]

[quote=Jace;809112]first time I heard that one

You may need to get out more, and talk to more people. Hearing things from only a few sources is never a good strategy to learn.

[will76]

Originally Posted by Jace

first time I heard that one

and as for posting what others are owed based on private conversations with them is not something I do, sorry will...if I had seen some of these people post on the boards I would say their names in a heartbeat, but this was told me in private, and it will stay that way unless I am advised otherwise

ok so lets get this straight. You don't know anyone who has posted publicly that they weren't paid by NR, but you know 10+ people who consulted in you in private that they weren't paid and they wanted to keep it a secret..


yeah ok. lol.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by CraigT

I heard Naked Rhino contacted their affiliates, and since Nats had shut them out of the system, they asked the affiliates what were they owed.

This is the first I've heard of this. Anyone out there lurking among those that actually got paid? Mailman from Medium Pimpin certainly wasn't one of them, he'd have said something.

[Jace]

I guess my big question to Will is why do you have such a vested interest in this? just for gossip or are you writing a news story?

I know why I have interest in it, but I can't figure out why you do

[will76]

Originally Posted by Toby

This is the first I've heard of this. Anyone out there lurking among those that actually got paid? Mailman from Medium Pimpin certainly wasn't one of them, he'd have said something.

So +1 that you know that wasn't paid and +/- 0 that you know that was

Hey now we are getting somewhere. maybe in abother 8 years at this pace we can actually find out how many people were or went paid honestly instead of just assuming and going off of board hearsay.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by will76

Toby I don't know you...

And that's the whole issue I have with the attitude. You're the new guy here, not me. You don't know enough about me, about what I do or don't know, to make those assumptions.

If I had a past history of posting unsubstantiated BS on the boards your point might be justified. But you just assumed that since I didn't specifically list names of all those that had been posting publicly at the time about not getting paid that my post was unjustified. That's bullshit.

As for people getting paid and not saying anything, sure that's not unusual, but not a single posting about getting paid in this case, especially by the those that had been so public about it, can pretty much be taken as confirmation that no payments have been made.

This is a discussion board not the New York Fuckin Times. I'm not a reporter, just a webmaster that doesn't care for seeing friends and colleagues cheated.

BTW, I've been posting on a number of adult webmaster boards for several years now, and on a few of them for longer than that. GFY is not one of them, but a number of the boards you've started posting at since getting the boot (undeservedly so IMO) from there are. Take the time to get to know me, I'm a pretty easy going guy most of the time. What you see is what you get, no time or need for board personas or hype.

[will76]

Originally Posted by Toby

And that's the whole issue I have with the attitude. You're the new guy here, not me. You don't know enough about me, about what I do or don't know, to make those assumptions.

If I had a past history of posting unsubstantiated BS on the boards your point might be justified. But you just assumed that since I didn't specifically list names of all those that had been posting publicly at the time about not getting paid that my post was unjustified. That's bullshit.

As for people getting paid and not saying anything, sure that's not unusual, but not a single posting about getting paid in this case, especially by the those that had been so public about it, can pretty much be taken as confirmation that no payments have been made.

This is a discussion board not the New York Fuckin Times. I'm not a reporter, just a webmaster that doesn't care for seeing friends and colleagues cheated.

BTW, I've been posting on a number of adult webmaster boards for several years now, and on a few of them for longer than that. GFY is not one of them, but a number of the boards you've started posting at since getting the boot (undeservedly so IMO) from there are. Take the time to get to know me, I'm a pretty easy going guy most of the time. What you see is what you get, no time or need for board personas or hype.

It funny you say this..... " since I didn't specifically list names of all those that had been posting publicly at the time about not getting paid that my post was unjustified."


but then you say this.... " I'm not a reporter, just a webmaster that doesn't care for seeing friends and colleagues cheated. "

BUT YET YOU STILL DONT NAME NAMES????

so your "friends and collegues were cheated" ???


Why the big secret who they are, you said they were vocal, for the fucking love of god why can't ANYONE tell me who hasn't been paid by NR. I feel like I am dealing with the fucking government here.