Do you want Gonzo to post your real name?

[Toby]

Why does the phrase Turnkey Website keep running through my head?

[softball]

Originally Posted by Toby

Why does the phrase Turnkey Website keep running through my head?

Now that brings back memories. Decisions, decisions.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Now that brings back memories. Decisions, decisions. (on Turnkey Websites)

I have always hated the term "Turnkey" myself but actually it is a good description of what LiveCamNetwork does. It's a video chat system that includes things like billing, accounting, user management, performer management, ability to network with other sites, etc.

It's still completely non-turnkey though to let owners customize the look and feel any way that they want, hire their own chat models, charge anything they like per minute, and pay anything they want per minute.

When people purchase our system, we advise them on how to use it. We even give them free access to our own business model which has worked for us for years.

(We would be pleased to offer a demo if anyone is interested! Even better, if you qualify, we would consider giving the right customer a FREE LiveCamNetwork license in exchange for a small revenue share.

If it works for you, great! Hopefully you will understand our grief with Shellee Hale. If it does not work for you, then at least you're out absolutely no money.

Shellee's unfortunate experience with 2Much derives from the fact that she simply ignored virtually every bit of advice we offered her and that is what lead to (continues to lead to) the pissing contest you see here. Oh well.

Contact us at 2Much!
http://www.2Much.net
http://www.LiveCamNetwork.com

[Toby]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

I have always hated the term "Turnkey" myself but actually it is a good description of what LiveCamNetwork does...

There's good reason to hate the term, since the vast majority of them are scams and rarely earn anyone but the site seller a dime.

[CouchSitter]

Originally Posted by Toby

There's good reason to hate the term, since the vast majority of them are scams and rarely earn anyone but the site seller a dime.

Amen Toby ...

[softball]

Perhaps you and your online ventures make millions also, since you took offense to my post.
It was obviously geared toward those that are experts in theory but not practice.

D, I feel like shaking you by the fucking collar. I am not taking offense at your posts I am supporting you. I have been all along. The million dollar thing is for your customers. I have no idea if you pay that out or not. Nor do I fucking care. The car thing is another bling thing that may or may not sell product. That is not the issue. What you put in the bank is and I have no idea what you put in the bank. But online, you pitch rich. So, when you fire broadsides on a board of your...no fear quotes necessary...your peers, then that all means shit. We all do that. It is how we make our living. So stop ragging on me for trying to make you look good. OK?

[Sexyteaser]

I am out of my league here. I remember at the first conference I went to a guy got up to monitor a panel in the newbies seminar he said "adult is a close group and if we don't like you we will destroy you." Now I clearly know what he meant. I am definitely losing fans here quickly and not for being right or wrong but for even responding. I guess an apology is warranted and some rest.

Dirty D was right being the newest one I really do need to work as I have a lot to try and fix and learn to earn respect around here.

I am going to work on redeeming myself another way.

[Hammer]

I like pie.

[Sexyteaser]

Originally Posted by Hammer

I like pie.

Hammer your back..... I got two black eyes a broken rib and a bruised kidney so don't make me re-live it with telling me how big of an idiot I am... Why didn't you just invite me over to the newbies section?

[Hammer]

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

Hammer your back..... I got two black eyes a broken rib and a bruised kidney so don't make me re-live it with telling me how big of an idiot I am... Why didn't you just invite me over to the newbies section?

How'd you do that?

Look, sometimes we all tend to post things we don't mean and I'm sure you're not an idiot. I apologize for calling you one. I still don't think it's a good idea to post home addresses on an adult forum, especially for a woman. One of the major complaints many solo models had concerning the changes to 2257 was the fact that they'd have to post their home address as the custodian of records and they were worried about stalkers.

I also had a problem with your cavalier attitude over the child references in your code when it was pointed out to you. I realize the way it was brought to your attention and the fact that it was done so by someone with a fake nick wasn't the optimal way of doing so but it was still something that IMO should have been addressed immediately.

The newbies section doesn't seem to be very popular here on Oprano and even though I'm the moderator I must admit I rarely remember to check it out.

[Sexyteaser]

Originally Posted by Hammer

How'd you do that?

Look, sometimes we all tend to post things we don't mean and I'm sure you're not an idiot. I apologize for calling you one. I still don't think it's a good idea to post home addresses on an adult forum, especially for a woman. One of the major complaints many solo models had concerning the changes to 2257 was the fact that they'd have to post their home address as the custodian of records and they were worried about stalkers.

I also had a problem with your cavalier attitude over the child references in your code when it was pointed out to you. I realize the way it was brought to your attention and the fact that it was done so by someone with a fake nick wasn't the optimal way of doing so but it was still something that IMO should have been addressed immediately.

The newbies section doesn't seem to be very popular here on Oprano and even though I'm the moderator I must admit I rarely remember to check it out.

I did not mean to sound or look cavalier but I did. I was actually freaking out and wanted to make sure some important people viewed it and took notice that the incinuations of the links to cp were false. This took some time I had to cover all my bases with the accusations so outrageous.

Once that was accomplished I made the documentation and changes as not to seem like I was hiding something.

I would not be lucky to have a stalker but I'm definitely not fun to stalk it would wear someone out following me around. My name, address, phone and a ton of other information is out there all over the place and I have been around dangerous people volunteering - I checked in a level 3 sex offender to a shelter who shot and killed his girlfriend in front of a pact house last year so it isn't like I have not seen some bad stuff or have been pretty scared at times - gone into some rough neighborhoods in the middle of the night to respond with Disaster Relief.

Don't give up on me yet - I really have some good ideas and they all will take some time to fully develop. I think most of the mentors I have in this business have a Mark Prince type story and spent a lot of money on attorney's regretfully.

Keep looking out for my work and give me some good criticism I respect and appreciate the opinions of those that really want to help.

Thank you for your concern and it's a little late to take it back... whats done is done.

[bluemoney]

I'm Dick Fitzwell from Cumming Georgia