Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6

[moetheman]

Well, you can all be the judge . . .

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by moetheman

Well, you can all be the judge . . .

Whoever she is, she's almost as hawt as Kedra!

Cheers!

[pam]

Am I the only one who hasn't a clue who Mark or Shellee is? I've never even heard of his program but then again, I do very very little with cams since I work in niche and microniche.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by pam

Am I the only one who hasn't a clue who Mark or Shellee is? I've never even heard of his program but then again, I do very very little with cams since I work in niche and microniche.

Hi Pam,

My name is Mark Prince, and I'm the owner of 2Much Internet. (http://www.2Much.net). We make a program called LiveCamNetwork.com, and you can see it operate at http://www.LiveCamNetwork.com.

It's a pleasure to make your acquaintance!

Mark Prince
http://www.2Much.net
http://www.LiveCamNetwork.com

[Mediaguy]

Mark is being generous, I feel... but the obvious doesn't need more than simple ocular verification:

Note the differences in boobs, in tongue piercing, and in mole... just to point out the obvious that seems to have remained unspoken here.



Anhow, I want to thank everyone for what a great thread this was, very entertaining... and hey maybe the people from Camsturbator will end up over here too, pissing all over everyone... well, not me, I prefer to watch...

Gonzo (and I guess you too Pam - welcome to Oprano ) - Mark hasn't been explicit in telling what we do, and it's annoying to see. You refer to our "affiliates", which we don't have as 2much.net is a hosted software and services provider and not a consumer site. We refer to the people we do B2B with as clients or customers, site operators or owners, not affiliates.

One of the services we offer to webcam sites on our software is the opportunity to share out their models or enable those from different sites, even though they're basically independant. They can share content.

That's not "exporting". I guess you'd call it brokering...

2much buys from one and sells to the other "on the fly" as it were; this reseller system features the additional 5% holdback due to the risk we take transacting for others - 2much pays you the minutes bought from you, but there's no guarantee we get paid on the resale.

The software we sell however is what I think Mark meatn as an export.

(I know it's not a very dramatic contribution, just wanted to clear up a few things; carry on!)

[Sexyteaser]

Originally Posted by Mediaguy

Mark is being generous, I feel... but the obvious doesn't need more than simple ocular verification:

Note the differences in boobs, in tongue piercing, and in mole... just to point out the obvious that seems to have remained unspoken here.



Anhow, I want to thank everyone for what a great thread this was, very entertaining... and hey maybe the people from Camsturbator will end up over here too, pissing all over everyone... well, not me, I prefer to watch...

Gonzo (and I guess you too Pam - welcome to Oprano ) - Mark hasn't been explicit in telling what we do, and it's annoying to see. You refer to our "affiliates", which we don't have as 2much.net is a hosted software and services provider and not a consumer site. We refer to the people we do B2B with as clients or customers, site operators or owners, not affiliates.

One of the services we offer to webcam sites on our software is the opportunity to share out their models or enable those from different sites, even though they're basically independant. They can share content.

That's not "exporting". I guess you'd call it brokering...

2much buys from one and sells to the other "on the fly" as it were; this reseller system features the additional 5% holdback due to the risk we take transacting for others - 2much pays you the minutes bought from you, but there's no guarantee we get paid on the resale.

The software we sell however is what I think Mark meatn as an export.

(I know it's not a very dramatic contribution, just wanted to clear up a few things; carry on!)

Omg take a photo of her in the same position you might have a different result - but don't worry we will soon have the proof we have all been waiting for..

By the way you don't call them affiliates well looky here http://www.lcncash.com/

and some of my affiliates that signed up claim they were spammed with LCNcash following their sign-up on ccbill you want that proof on here as well?

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

Omg take a photo of her in the same position you might have a different result - but don't worry we will soon have the proof we have all been waiting for..

By the way you don't call them affiliates well looky here http://www.lcncash.com/

and some of my affiliates that signed up claim they were spammed with LCNcash following their sign-up on ccbill you want that proof on here as well?

Shellee,

Read the message that Greg posted. He said 2Much.net has no affiliates, not LiveCamNetwork.com.

And sure Shellee, go ahead and send us more of your "Proof" that we spam people. Whatever floats your boat.

We're all going out for a few beers now. I suggest you do the same. Or just go drink alone, I don't care.

[Mediaguy]

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

Omg take a photo of her in the same position you might have a different result - but don't worry we will soon have the proof we have all been waiting for..

You're kidding? You know Kedra, you've met her, you're putting me on... Pierced tongues, different nasolabs... what's the point? She works here...

For the benefit of those who DON'T know Kedra yet here's two more shots:



ENJOY THE FULL GALLERY lol : http://camsturbate.com/performers/ga...sexy_bella.htm

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

By the way you don't call them affiliates well looky here http://www.lcncash.com/

LCNCash is the affiliate program for www.LiveCamNetwork.com, which is an example of the type of site we build & host and power. It's not the affiliate program for 2much.net, which doesn't have an affiliate program.

2much.net is a software provider, a B2B service provider.

LiveCamNetwork.com is a consumer-oriented site, for which you weren't an affiliate, except perhaps indirectly if or when you chose to resell LiveCamNetwork.com content to your customers on your site.

You were a client of 2much.net.

So, No, we don't call users of our software affiliates.

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

and some of my affiliates that signed up claim they were spammed with LCNcash following their sign-up on ccbill you want that proof on here as well?

No I don't need it. I have an email a concerned webmaster sent me that showed the CCBill email list was sending across sub-accounts. The problem was fixed promptly, as soon as we were aware of it.

Thanks, though.

[Mediaguy]

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

Omg take a photo of her in the same position you might have a different result - but don't worry we will soon have the proof we have all been waiting for..

You're kidding? You know Kedra, you've met her, you're putting me on... Pierced tongues, different nasolabs... what's the point? She works here...

For the benefit of those who DON'T know Kedra yet here's two more shots:



ENJOY THE FULL GALLERY lol : http://camsturbate.com/performers/ga...sexy_bella.htm

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

By the way you don't call them affiliates well looky here http://www.lcncash.com/

LCNCash is the affiliate program for www.LiveCamNetwork.com, which is an example of the type of site we build & host and power. It's not the affiliate program for 2much.net, which doesn't have an affiliate program.

2much.net is a software provider, a B2B service provider.

LiveCamNetwork.com is a consumer-oriented site, for which you weren't an affiliate, except perhaps indirectly if or when you chose to resell LiveCamNetwork.com content to your customers on your site.

You were a client of 2much.net.

So, No, we don't call users of our software affiliates.

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

and some of my affiliates that signed up claim they were spammed with LCNcash following their sign-up on ccbill you want that proof on here as well?

No I don't need it. I have an email a concerned webmaster sent me that showed the CCBill email list was sending across sub-accounts. The problem was fixed promptly, as soon as we were aware of it.

Thanks, though. But I'm just about done my day here, this was a fun run, too, between jobs, but now it's post-office-activity so... CHEERS! gotta run!

[Sexyteaser]

Originally Posted by Mediaguy

No I don't need it. I have an email a concerned webmaster sent me that showed the CCBill email list was sending across sub-accounts. The problem was fixed promptly, as soon as we were aware of it.

well how did I mis-interpret this?

[Mediaguy]

Originally Posted by Shelleehale

well how did I mis-interpret this?

OK your 'mis-intepration' lies in the fact that from your words and tone apparently you believe this is a deliberate attempt to subvert your own affiliate program, which I assure you and anyone who's interested in our (software) program is not the case.

How could we maintain respect and a business at all if we tried to take out our own clients?

[pam]

Gonzo (and I guess you too Pam - welcome to Oprano ) [/quote]

Thanks, though I've been here for a few years and have known Gonzo for about 3.5 years from another board.

[Mediaguy]

Originally Posted by pam

Gonzo (and I guess you too Pam - welcome to Oprano )

Thanks, though I've been here for a few years and have known Gonzo for about 3.5 years from another board.

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mouhahah sorry i'm embarassed... oh well I like to think we're ALL newbs on some level :P - so I hope the intro to us was at least understandable...

[2MuchMark]

ShelleHale:

The next time you accuse someone,
The next time you have "Proof" of anything
The next time you shoot your fucking mouth off, remember this image:



This picture was taken TONIGHT, lady, TONIGHT.

And just in case you were "too proud" to click this link over to this Ynot page:

http://www.ynot.com/index.php?name=P...topic&t=128954

Kedra said : "I'm quite happy where I am and I wanted to share this one with you because you have always been great to me around here. Thank you! 2Much and LCN are my home and I'll be here as long as the customers will have me! "

So the next fucking time you open your TRAP you had better have some real proof otherwise you are just digging your own ditch a little deeper every time.

NOW:

Just so you know, ShelleeHale, there are no hard feelings. As someone who you know pointed out to us tonight that you are probably "just a depressed Avon lady looking for the next big thing". You are welcome to keep looking, and keep trying new web ideas and I am sure you will hit a magic one. Until then, we all wish you the best of luck. CHEERS TO YOU!



(Mark, Kedra, Mediaguy)

Just please stop pretending to be an expert on anything, and leave Kedra (and all of us) alone. Get it? Got it? Good! (And OWNED once again!)

Thank you and God Bless.

[pam]

Originally Posted by Mediaguy

mouhahah sorry i'm embarassed... oh well I like to think we're ALL newbs on some level :P - so I hope the intro to us was at least understandable...

'sokay, been here in the industry longer than most but am pretty low-key.

I'll end this with spam and say if anyone wants their site reviewed, PM me and I'll review your site -- review site has been up 4 years next month.

(Hey, everyone else is spamming a program, why not me?)

[Hammer]

MediaGuy looks surprisingly sober in that picture. Is that an NA beer?

Personally, as someone that has no vested interest in this argument and speaking completely objectively, I can honestly say that I've just added Shelleehale to my list of people to never do business with. She's done everything but threaten to kill someone in this thread and so far has refused to remove child porn references from her site even though it was pointed out quite some time ago and it was also pointed out how bad a thing it is, even if it wasn't intentional and she has also accused someone of being someone they weren't and has refused to apologize even after she was proven wrong.

[ScottMcGowan]

I hate you all.