Shelleehale your site is screwed up in IE6

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by moetheman

Very interesting.

According to what I had read on the subject, the only reliable way to obtain the MAC addy is to either enter Layer 2 and get it yourself or (preferably) have software go there, grab it, and send it back to you . . .

Either way though, I agree that it is settled, insofar as my original point went: you can be tracked by MAC address on the internet.

Disclaimer: I am a Larval stage Pythonista/Rubyist . . . not into networking/security that much at all . . .

And my orignal post the hes a lying pussy trying to bully a woman while hiding under a sock puppet.

But running his cocksucker all day has been more enlightnening with information on
1. Company lay offs
2. Trying to buttfuck his clients and affiliates by double charging for a Playboy Mansion ticket so they could hang out with him in the corner next to the ice statues to be introduced to more players like him.
3. How he charges you an addition 5% hold back on top the the 5% CCBill holdback and calls it an export fee.


We didnt even get into the other parts like rebill skimming.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by gonzo

And my orignal post the hes a lying pussy trying to bully a woman while hiding under a sock puppet.

But running his cocksucker all day has been more enlightnening with information on
1. Company lay offs
2. Trying to buttfuck his clients and affiliates by double charging for a Playboy Mansion ticket so they could hang out with him in the corner next to the ice statues to be introduced to more players like him.
3. How he charges you an addition 5% hold back on top the the 5% CCBill holdback and calls it an export fee.


We didnt even get into the other parts like rebill skimming.

Try all you want Gonzo, you won't win this lame argument of yours. You know what though, if you would only ask me these questions instead of assuming shit like you always do, you (and your readers here) would learn a hell of alot. I have learned alot (and continue to learn) from all kinds of people and companies in this business. If you continue to be close-minded and just assume shit, you will never learn anything, and your members here will go elsewhere.

Did we lay off people in 2007?
Of course! Re-read the previous post on this subject. When revenues are down, any company has to do whats best and trim the fat. Even though sales remained constant, the US dollar forced us to do lots of changes. If anyone wants to learn from us about what we did, please don't be shy to ask me personally. Making a company more lean helps to be more effecient and helps reduce costs. If you don't understand this very basic concept Gonzo, I feel sorry for you.

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[sarettah]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Did we lay off people in 2007?
Of course! Re-read the previous post on this subject. When revenues are down, any company has to do whats best and trim the fat. Even though sales remained constant, the US dollar forced us to do lots of changes. If anyone wants to learn from us about what we did, please don't be shy to ask me personally. Making a company more lean helps to be more effecient and helps reduce costs.

Layoffs (reducing labor) is used very often by businesses to save money because it is the EASIEST method of doing so. Labor is usually the most expensive part of a business so of course reducing that expense makes the profits go up. Unfortunately, it is also the method that causes the most stress for those involved and creates the most bad publicity because people often feel betrayed. But like I say, it is the easiest method so many Non-creative managers who don't want to have to think go this route.

There are many creative ways to raise that profit number but they require out of the box thinking and hard work and planning to implement.

just my 2 cents

[Hammer]

Nice tits on Corinne. I'd take those nipples and.... sorry, got a little carried away there.

Nice personal message on YNOT Kedra, even though Mark ended up using it for promotion.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Hammer

Nice tits on Corinne. I'd take those nipples and.... sorry, got a little carried away there.

Nice personal message on YNOT Kedra, even though Mark ended up using it for promotion.

Sorry Hammer! I learned how to be a publicity whore from MEDIAGUY. (He da man!)

Cheers!

[moetheman]

Well, you can all be the judge . . .

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by moetheman

Well, you can all be the judge . . .

Whoever she is, she's almost as hawt as Kedra!

Cheers!

[pam]

Am I the only one who hasn't a clue who Mark or Shellee is? I've never even heard of his program but then again, I do very very little with cams since I work in niche and microniche.

[Mediaguy]

Mark is being generous, I feel... but the obvious doesn't need more than simple ocular verification:

Note the differences in boobs, in tongue piercing, and in mole... just to point out the obvious that seems to have remained unspoken here.



Anhow, I want to thank everyone for what a great thread this was, very entertaining... and hey maybe the people from Camsturbator will end up over here too, pissing all over everyone... well, not me, I prefer to watch...

Gonzo (and I guess you too Pam - welcome to Oprano ) - Mark hasn't been explicit in telling what we do, and it's annoying to see. You refer to our "affiliates", which we don't have as 2much.net is a hosted software and services provider and not a consumer site. We refer to the people we do B2B with as clients or customers, site operators or owners, not affiliates.

One of the services we offer to webcam sites on our software is the opportunity to share out their models or enable those from different sites, even though they're basically independant. They can share content.

That's not "exporting". I guess you'd call it brokering...

2much buys from one and sells to the other "on the fly" as it were; this reseller system features the additional 5% holdback due to the risk we take transacting for others - 2much pays you the minutes bought from you, but there's no guarantee we get paid on the resale.

The software we sell however is what I think Mark meatn as an export.

(I know it's not a very dramatic contribution, just wanted to clear up a few things; carry on!)

[moetheman]

Originally Posted by gonzo

And my orignal post the hes a lying pussy trying to bully a woman while hiding under a sock puppet.

But running his cocksucker all day has been more enlightnening with information on
1. Company lay offs
2. Trying to buttfuck his clients and affiliates by double charging for a Playboy Mansion ticket so they could hang out with him in the corner next to the ice statues to be introduced to more players like him.
3. How he charges you an addition 5% hold back on top the the 5% CCBill holdback and calls it an export fee.


We didnt even get into the other parts like rebill skimming.

And you have certainly proved your point Gonzo.

The way you say "running his cocksucker" is pretty funny.

Notice how he backed off from the MAC address debate?

I still want Mr. Mitnick to come on here and give us his opinion though (just because I'm a geek)

I have a lot of respect for the guy. Among the reasons are:

8 fucking years in Lompoc was it? And a white guy? And he made it out in one piece? That's balls.

Fuck.