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[sarettah]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Kevin and Darci Wood are both friends of Oprano.

If you dont know the history of how that came about remind me to link you to the boards most popular thread of all time when you have a weekend to kill....

If you dont know Darci shes was one of those lab techie chicks on G4 with Leo Laporte etc.

You can check her blog out at http://www.agirlandhermac.com

Im sure they will be wrong too though.

Sheez man, we don't need to be bothering Kevin and Darci (however Darci can show her cute little face anytime she wants as far as I'm concerned) We can solve the MAC Address debate real easy:

An http protocol packet has 5 layers:

The physical layer (actual computers)
The ethernet layers (this contains the MAC address of the two machines that are talking to each other - sender and reciever)
The IP layer - contains the destination ip
The TCP layer which contains the port info
and the http layer whc\ich contains the actual request

So, like I said, even though we normally do not see the ethernet layer (the MAC addresses) when we are doing our every day processing, it is there and can be detected by a packet sniffer.

here is the breakdown on a packet: from http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2001...SD_Basics.html

---------------------------------------------------------------
Packet 10
TIME: 10:25:36.854420 (6.232947)
LINK: 00:00:B4:3C:56:40 -> 00:50:BAE:36:33 type=IP
IP: biko -> genisis hlen=20 TOS=10 dgramlen=44 id=0013
MF/DF=0/1 frag=0 TTL=64 proto=TCP cksum=26A7
TCP: port blackjack -> telnet seq=3205630181 ack=0000000000
hlen=24 (data=0) UAPRSF=000010 wnd=16384 cksum=7814 urg=0
DATA:
---------------------------------------------------------------Not counting the TIME heading, there are four parts to this packet. The LINK heading represents the Layer 2 frame. Normally, this is the portion of the packet that is monitored by the NIC; you'll note that it contains the MAC address of the sending computer and the MAC address of the destination computer. There are several different types of Ethernet frames; I can tell this is an Ethernet_II frame since it contains a "type" field.

More here http://www.newartisans.com/blog_file...tcp.packet.php

[gonzo]

Hahaha I think I can afford to call in a few favors from them.
You know as well as I do they both hate liars as much as I do.

Should we call the new show LieBusters?

Originally Posted by sarettah

Sheez man, we don't need to be bothering Kevin and Darci (however Darci can show her cute little face anytime she wants as far as I'm concerned) We can solve the MAC Address debate real easy:

An http protocol packet has 5 layers:

The physical layer (actual computers)
The ethernet layers (this contains the MAC address of the two machines that are talking to each other - sender and reciever)
The IP layer - contains the destination ip
The TCP layer which contains the port info
and the http layer whc\ich contains the actual request

So, like I said, even though we normally do not see the ethernet layer (the MAC addresses) when we are doing our every day processing, it is there and can be detected by a packet sniffer.

here is the breakdown on a packet: from http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2001...SD_Basics.html

---------------------------------------------------------------
Packet 10
TIME: 10:25:36.854420 (6.232947)
LINK: 00:00:B4:3C:56:40 -> 00:50:BAE:36:33 type=IP
IP: biko -> genisis hlen=20 TOS=10 dgramlen=44 id=0013
MF/DF=0/1 frag=0 TTL=64 proto=TCP cksum=26A7
TCP: port blackjack -> telnet seq=3205630181 ack=0000000000
hlen=24 (data=0) UAPRSF=000010 wnd=16384 cksum=7814 urg=0
DATA:
---------------------------------------------------------------Not counting the TIME heading, there are four parts to this packet. The LINK heading represents the Layer 2 frame. Normally, this is the portion of the packet that is monitored by the NIC; you'll note that it contains the MAC address of the sending computer and the MAC address of the destination computer. There are several different types of Ethernet frames; I can tell this is an Ethernet_II frame since it contains a "type" field.

More here http://www.newartisans.com/blog_file...tcp.packet.php

[moetheman]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Sheez man, we don't need to be bothering Kevin and Darci (however Darci can show her cute little face anytime she wants as far as I'm concerned) We can solve the MAC Address debate real easy:

An http protocol packet has 5 layers:

The physical layer (actual computers)
The ethernet layers (this contains the MAC address of the two machines that are talking to each other - sender and reciever)
The IP layer - contains the destination ip
The TCP layer which contains the port info
and the http layer whc\ich contains the actual request

So, like I said, even though we normally do not see the ethernet layer (the MAC addresses) when we are doing our every day processing, it is there and can be detected by a packet sniffer.

here is the breakdown on a packet: from http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2001...SD_Basics.html

---------------------------------------------------------------
Packet 10
TIME: 10:25:36.854420 (6.232947)
LINK: 00:00:B4:3C:56:40 -> 00:50:BAE:36:33 type=IP
IP: biko -> genisis hlen=20 TOS=10 dgramlen=44 id=0013
MF/DF=0/1 frag=0 TTL=64 proto=TCP cksum=26A7
TCP: port blackjack -> telnet seq=3205630181 ack=0000000000
hlen=24 (data=0) UAPRSF=000010 wnd=16384 cksum=7814 urg=0
DATA:
---------------------------------------------------------------Not counting the TIME heading, there are four parts to this packet. The LINK heading represents the Layer 2 frame. Normally, this is the portion of the packet that is monitored by the NIC; you'll note that it contains the MAC address of the sending computer and the MAC address of the destination computer. There are several different types of Ethernet frames; I can tell this is an Ethernet_II frame since it contains a "type" field.

More here http://www.newartisans.com/blog_file...tcp.packet.php

Very interesting.

According to what I had read on the subject, the only reliable way to obtain the MAC addy is to either enter Layer 2 and get it yourself or (preferably) have software go there, grab it, and send it back to you . . .

Either way though, I agree that it is settled, insofar as my original point went: you can be tracked by MAC address on the internet.

Disclaimer: I am a Larval stage Pythonista/Rubyist . . . not into networking/security that much at all . . .

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by moetheman

Very interesting.

According to what I had read on the subject, the only reliable way to obtain the MAC addy is to either enter Layer 2 and get it yourself or (preferably) have software go there, grab it, and send it back to you . . .

Either way though, I agree that it is settled, insofar as my original point went: you can be tracked by MAC address on the internet.

Disclaimer: I am a Larval stage Pythonista/Rubyist . . . not into networking/security that much at all . . .

And my orignal post the hes a lying pussy trying to bully a woman while hiding under a sock puppet.

But running his cocksucker all day has been more enlightnening with information on
1. Company lay offs
2. Trying to buttfuck his clients and affiliates by double charging for a Playboy Mansion ticket so they could hang out with him in the corner next to the ice statues to be introduced to more players like him.
3. How he charges you an addition 5% hold back on top the the 5% CCBill holdback and calls it an export fee.


We didnt even get into the other parts like rebill skimming.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by gonzo

And my orignal post the hes a lying pussy trying to bully a woman while hiding under a sock puppet.

But running his cocksucker all day has been more enlightnening with information on
1. Company lay offs
2. Trying to buttfuck his clients and affiliates by double charging for a Playboy Mansion ticket so they could hang out with him in the corner next to the ice statues to be introduced to more players like him.
3. How he charges you an addition 5% hold back on top the the 5% CCBill holdback and calls it an export fee.


We didnt even get into the other parts like rebill skimming.

Try all you want Gonzo, you won't win this lame argument of yours. You know what though, if you would only ask me these questions instead of assuming shit like you always do, you (and your readers here) would learn a hell of alot. I have learned alot (and continue to learn) from all kinds of people and companies in this business. If you continue to be close-minded and just assume shit, you will never learn anything, and your members here will go elsewhere.

Did we lay off people in 2007?
Of course! Re-read the previous post on this subject. When revenues are down, any company has to do whats best and trim the fat. Even though sales remained constant, the US dollar forced us to do lots of changes. If anyone wants to learn from us about what we did, please don't be shy to ask me personally. Making a company more lean helps to be more effecient and helps reduce costs. If you don't understand this very basic concept Gonzo, I feel sorry for you.

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[sarettah]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Did we lay off people in 2007?
Of course! Re-read the previous post on this subject. When revenues are down, any company has to do whats best and trim the fat. Even though sales remained constant, the US dollar forced us to do lots of changes. If anyone wants to learn from us about what we did, please don't be shy to ask me personally. Making a company more lean helps to be more effecient and helps reduce costs.

Layoffs (reducing labor) is used very often by businesses to save money because it is the EASIEST method of doing so. Labor is usually the most expensive part of a business so of course reducing that expense makes the profits go up. Unfortunately, it is also the method that causes the most stress for those involved and creates the most bad publicity because people often feel betrayed. But like I say, it is the easiest method so many Non-creative managers who don't want to have to think go this route.

There are many creative ways to raise that profit number but they require out of the box thinking and hard work and planning to implement.

just my 2 cents

[Hammer]

Nice tits on Corinne. I'd take those nipples and.... sorry, got a little carried away there.

Nice personal message on YNOT Kedra, even though Mark ended up using it for promotion.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Hammer

Nice tits on Corinne. I'd take those nipples and.... sorry, got a little carried away there.

Nice personal message on YNOT Kedra, even though Mark ended up using it for promotion.

Sorry Hammer! I learned how to be a publicity whore from MEDIAGUY. (He da man!)

Cheers!

[moetheman]

Well, you can all be the judge . . .

[moetheman]

Originally Posted by gonzo

And my orignal post the hes a lying pussy trying to bully a woman while hiding under a sock puppet.

But running his cocksucker all day has been more enlightnening with information on
1. Company lay offs
2. Trying to buttfuck his clients and affiliates by double charging for a Playboy Mansion ticket so they could hang out with him in the corner next to the ice statues to be introduced to more players like him.
3. How he charges you an addition 5% hold back on top the the 5% CCBill holdback and calls it an export fee.


We didnt even get into the other parts like rebill skimming.

And you have certainly proved your point Gonzo.

The way you say "running his cocksucker" is pretty funny.

Notice how he backed off from the MAC address debate?

I still want Mr. Mitnick to come on here and give us his opinion though (just because I'm a geek)

I have a lot of respect for the guy. Among the reasons are:

8 fucking years in Lompoc was it? And a white guy? And he made it out in one piece? That's balls.

Fuck.

[ScottMcGowan]

Does Corinne have eyeballs?

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by ScottMcGowan

Does Corinne have eyeballs?

I think they are with Kendra's mole thats missing from Camsturbation.