Explain to me why "Solo Teen" sells....

[RawAlex]

Danny, I think there is a combination of things at play here that, when they come together, makes a teen site a success.

First off, and let's not kid ourselves, is the pedo types. It is sad to say but let's be honest, there are some guys out there looking specifically for young girls. Many teen sites (solo and general) play the "just turned 18" card whenever they can. I am sure that some of the closet pedos out there are all over that.

Second thing I see is the "fresh and innocent" aspects. I often find for whatever reason that the teen solo sites that do the best have girls not doing hardcore or anything like that, but just getting naked, upskirts, and maybe some play with girlfriends. Lightspeed essentially played that card right to the hilt. Some guys like girls that aren't yet corrupted, so they can work on corrupting themselves.

Third (in successful sites) is a girl that is naturally attractive, nice body, and a certain charm or look that connects with the viewer. A good example there would be a girl like Dawson Miller (sadly she left the business before she got really big) because she was good looking and had a nice smile.

I will say that while I do promote some of the "teens with braces" styles sites, I personally don't find that super skinny white girls with ribs showing and braces to be appealing to me. If I want petite, I prefer asian, thank you very much. I think you will find too that if you look at the teen / solo sites that have done well long term, most of them are NOT in the braces and ribs department.

The braces and ribs girls seem to do well for a shorter period of time and then fade into the distance. I think it often comes down to not being able to produce more content. Look at a girl like Little April. Her newer picture sets show a girl that has matured and moved away from the skinny braces look, but it is hard for a site to move along with that.

[pam]

In some cases I think it's the interaction. If the model posts in a blog or a journal and talks to the surfers, they feel that connection.

I recently had to do some research and landed on many, MANY of this type of site, and my first thoughts were they all looked the same. Most seemed to promise the girls would play with themselves and with girlfriends, though how far that "play" goes is unknown to me.

I also saw some solo teen sites that were unique, though.

The one complaint I do get when talking to surfers is they don't join the solo girl sites (in my niche, of which there are just a few sites) because they want to see more than one model.

One of my favorite web girls is a site I can't sell much at all. I tried pushing another older woman in my niche who has a solo site (though appears with her man) and could not make more than one or two sales even though I threw a lot of traffic at it.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by pam

...The one complaint I do get when talking to surfers is they don't join the solo girl sites (in my niche, of which there are just a few sites) because they want to see more than one model...

Hmmm, interesting... not something I've had an issue with. 7 of my top 10 sponsors are solo girl sites, although none are teens.

[Hell Puppy]

What appeals to someone sexually is very very hard to figure out. We're all wired differently. Some guys dig tattoos, some hate 'em. Some like tits the size of basketballs, other guys prefer mosquito bites.

Here's my guess and observation as an amateur psychologist.

Ever notice how most people tend to always love the type of music and songs that they were into when they were in their late teens early twenties? Those songs trigger memories of what is often the best time of your life. You're young, finding your way in the world for the first time, exploring things, and generally care free. You live kinda like Jace does today.

My theory is girls of that age push those same buttons in us psychologically. Takes us back to those times. Let's us have the fantasy of being that young again.

Or half the world are closet pedophiles...

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

What appeals to someone sexually is very very hard to figure out. We're all wired differently. Some guys dig tattoos, some hate 'em. Some like tits the size of basketballs, other guys prefer mosquito bites.

Here's my guess and observation as an amateur psychologist.

Ever notice how most people tend to always love the type of music and songs that they were into when they were in their late teens early twenties? Those songs trigger memories of what is often the best time of your life. You're young, finding your way in the world for the first time, exploring things, and generally care free. You live kinda like Jace does today.

My theory is girls of that age push those same buttons in us psychologically. Takes us back to those times. Let's us have the fantasy of being that young again.

Or half the world are closet pedophiles...

...and if this was a multiple choice question? I'd choose option #2

[RawAlex]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

What appeals to someone sexually is very very hard to figure out. We're all wired differently. Some guys dig tattoos, some hate 'em. Some like tits the size of basketballs, other guys prefer mosquito bites.

Here's my guess and observation as an amateur psychologist.

Ever notice how most people tend to always love the type of music and songs that they were into when they were in their late teens early twenties? Those songs trigger memories of what is often the best time of your life. You're young, finding your way in the world for the first time, exploring things, and generally care free. You live kinda like Jace does today.

My theory is girls of that age push those same buttons in us psychologically. Takes us back to those times. Let's us have the fantasy of being that young again.

Or half the world are closet pedophiles...

To some extent that "first experience" can really set a pattern, or at least that is an excuse often used to explain people who have specific desires, from older gals to other more kinky things. What may have gotten us excited first or been our first sexual memories can stay with you all your life.

[Rcourt64]

You guys are making this sound as if it's some sort of teenage rekindling
that we seem to have lusting inside from our past, and are reliving & express it through teenage porn???.......? ....? ...?

... ...Forget that, I ain't fallin' for that crap.
They're just in the closet pervs is all....

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by Toby

Hmmm, interesting... not something I've had an issue with. 7 of my top 10 sponsors are solo girl sites, although none are teens.

Originally Posted by DannyCox

Again, it's not my thing, just trying to figure out the appeal and the reasons these things "may" sell. (Still think it's mainly hype)

How could you possibly consider it as "hype"? when its demonstrating itself just by it's high demand & popularity that its sales would be far from that?
Now saturation of a product is anther story. But in my small time here I've aparently seen & learned that a majority of the people promoting any of they're specified niche don't even know where they're traffic is establishing from? or who they're average customer might even be for that matter?
So, for that fact then, What or how would they know about why people are attracted to teen porn then???
Unless your in actual contact with your purchasers then I don't believe a bunch of webmaster can reply to any certainty.


...was the polite reply.

...but at anytime feel free to ask for my personal rcourt64 version of why teen porn sells ... hehehe

[pam]

Originally Posted by Rcourt64

Unless your in actual contact with your purchasers then I don't believe a bunch of webmaster can reply to any certainty.

But some of us DO have contact with their surfers on a daily basis. I know when they call I ask questions -- why do you like this, when did you discover your interest, what would you like to see in my next video, what would you like to see on X website.

Unfortunately I often become their psychiatrist (bartender?) as they unload more than I ever needed to know.

I don't think it's hype, though, because I see more and more solo teen girl sites coming up every single day, and if they didn't sell .....

Too bad more people don't realize that microniche sells well and put out more niche and microniche sites.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by pam

...Too bad more people don't realize that microniche sells well and put out more niche and microniche sites.

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by Toby

yawn

[softball]

Originally Posted by pam

But some of us DO have contact with their surfers on a daily basis. I know when they call I ask questions -- why do you like this, when did you discover your interest, what would you like to see in my next video, what would you like to see on X website.

Unfortunately I often become their psychiatrist (bartender?) as they unload more than I ever needed to know.

I don't think it's hype, though, because I see more and more solo teen girl sites coming up every single day, and if they didn't sell .....

Too bad more people don't realize that microniche sells well and put out more niche and microniche sites.

You guys all crack me up. Microniche...hmmmm....is that something that a lot of guys like? Sure is. I just had someone do about 750 dollars worth of sales today. I am sure that in your world this is no big whoop, but along with the other guys, this is pretty fine for me. As far as the question re: young girls all being the same old same old....well that is what sex in the straight world is all about. So why would it not sell. No offense, Danny, but Carol cox has always been about straight sex and has done well for you.

[gonzo]

After seeing the diversity of the videos in the VOD catalog I can honestly say that someone will buy anything that you photograph or video.

HOW MANY PEOPLE that will buy it and HOW MUCH THEY SPEND however is a different story.

Ive seen people pay to watch women in high heels crush bugs or in short skirts trying to get a flooded car started.

Not much straight sex in those niches but they do sell.
As long as you dont expect a fortune for each crazy idea then I think there is a good living to be earned.

Unfortunatly I thnk R is looking for someone to give him a detailed roadmap to fame and fortune.

Good luck and best wishes.