aebn for dummies

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by LizAEBN

I have numbers.

I am not putting them on a public forum.

While I appreciate your desire to get hard numbers, I am certain you can likewise appreciate that I am unwilling to post numbers such as those you request for various reasons - not the least of which is the number of webmasters who would then feel that I was providing a "guarantee" of what their income should look like, instead of recognising the sheer number of facors that come into play.

I am always pleased to work with webmasters in a one-on-one basis, and I have offered to discuss hard numbers with you on a personal level... But you continue to post ridiculous requests for "boob shots" which are completely immaterial to the conversation at hand, and not germane to the manner in which I conduct my business relationships.

And I am really not sure why you feel compelled to take continued potshots at my intelligence, when I have made every effort to maintain a level of discourse through the entirety of this conversation that you seem obliged to drag back to third grade.

Thanks, though, for entertaining me

You don't have a decent retention level? ..do you now? "if any at all"
Not even your pro-affiliates can maintain a decent retention from a novelty idea has the P.O.V? ...can they????
This is why I get all the fucking run around replies & piss ass answers from yourself and others.
Porn's still feeding off the novelty of the Internet being NEW to a still generation of middle and lower class people, (who now find pc's and ISP's at affordable prices).
And as long has theres new comers, "The porn still sell". <--(Someone should buy that, thepornstillsell.com) ...right?
But retaining is all trashed once they get off? HUH?
Possibly a 35% buy more? ...if that much.

But wait a minute..? Could it be possibly that a low retention might be due to ALL THE FUCKING FREE PORN offered by all our wonderful and honest sponsors.
So now what???
Well... I need NEW traffic now i guess? , cuz my customers don't come back, even though I might update my silly sites just like the other hundred million new websites promoting the same updated FREE content. right Liz?

Now can we discuss those boobs you keep offering to show???
I'm ready....Dude

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by Rcourt64

You don't have a decent retention level? ..do you now? "if any at all"
Not even your pro-affiliates can maintain a decent retention from a novelty idea has the P.O.V? ...can they????
This is why I get all the fucking run around replies & piss ass answers from yourself and others.
Porn's still feeding off the novelty of the Internet being NEW to a still generation of middle and lower class people, (who now find pc's and ISP's at affordable prices).
And as long has theres new comers, "The porn still sell". <--(Someone should buy that, thepornstillsell.com) ...right?
But retaining is all trashed once they get off? HUH?
Possibly a 35% buy more? ...if that much.

But wait a minute..? Could it be possibly that a low retention might be due to ALL THE FUCKING FREE PORN offered by all our wonderful and honest sponsors.
So now what???
Well... I need NEW traffic now i guess? , cuz my customers don't come back, even though I might update my silly sites just like the other hundred million new websites promoting the same updated FREE content. right Liz?

Now can we discuss those boobs you keep offering to show???
I'm ready....Dude

Ya ...that what i thought Liz

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by Rcourt64

You don't have a decent retention level? ..do you now? "if any at all"
Not even your pro-affiliates can maintain a decent retention from a novelty idea has the P.O.V? ...can they????
This is why I get all the fucking run around replies & piss ass answers from yourself and others.
Porn's still feeding off the novelty of the Internet being NEW to a still generation of middle and lower class people, (who now find pc's and ISP's at affordable prices).
And as long has theres new comers, "The porn still sell". <--(Someone should buy that, thepornstillsell.com) ...right?
But retaining is all trashed once they get off? HUH?
Possibly a 35% buy more? ...if that much.

But wait a minute..? Could it be possibly that a low retention might be due to ALL THE FUCKING FREE PORN offered by all our wonderful and honest sponsors.
So now what???
Well... I need NEW traffic now i guess? , cuz my customers don't come back, even though I might update my silly sites just like the other hundred million new websites promoting the same updated FREE content. right Liz?

Now can we discuss those boobs you keep offering to show???
I'm ready....Dude

You're in the weeds here man.

Novelty, depending on new rubes as customers, etc, that describes 90% of the adult internet, but not AEBN. Typical paysite's game is get the user to enter his credit card and then charge absolutely as much as you possibly can do it with cross sells, upsells, etc. And the recur it and hope he would rather pay it one more month than hassle with cancelling it or charging it back. Or better yet he forgets it all together and you get to charge him til it expires.

Typical site is a cookie cutter tour with same back end that is on the 50-100 other paysites in their given portfolio. Now this isn't everyone, the amateurs and many of the solo girls for instance actually do deliver what's promised.

Same is true of AEBN. No tricks, they give you exactly what is advertised. It's pay per minute, you pay for what you use, what could be more clean than that? And they have all of the top studios and pretty much any title you can find at your local video store is available in their library along with tens of thousands long since forgotten or too small to get good distribution.

Have you tried it either as a surfer or as a webmaster sending traffic? You ask them for their data, share your's. What have you got? What have you sent? How did it do?

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

You're in the weeds here man.

I love being in the weeds man, cuz then I can see for miles & miles...

Novelty, depending on new rubes as customers, etc, that describes 90% of the adult internet, but not AEBN. Typical paysite's game is get the user to enter his credit card and then charge absolutely as much as you possibly can do it with cross sells, upsells, etc. And the recur it and hope he would rather pay it one more month than hassle with cancelling it or charging it back. Or better yet he forgets it all together and you get to charge him til it expires.

Adult Internet Marketing 101 "Quick Ways to retain a Buck",
..since the novelty probably gets burned once the horniness expires.
And does anyone ever ask why...?
..What or How? Can an industry do to find ways to retain the customers besides petty marketing tactic acts like: "Ohhh, Maybe he'll forget to cancel"

Typical site is a cookie cutter tour with same back end that is on the 50-100 other paysites in their given portfolio. Now this isn't everyone, the amateurs and many of the solo girls for instance actually do deliver what's promised.

Absolutely, but only lasting till enough product and content is produced, then this changes. Now you've created a cut, copy & paste selling porn website of the same 998 pictures & clips and your so called Amateur beauty is only a novelty to only the new Internet comers.
Nothings been retained besides maybe a few perved out weirdos, who have a possible mental connection crush with the model/performer.

Same is true of AEBN. No tricks, they give you exactly what is advertised. It's pay per minute, you pay for what you use, what could be more clean than that? And they have all of the top studios and pretty much any title you can find at your local video store is available in their library along with tens of thousands long since forgotten or too small to get good distribution.

For that same matter, offering pay per minute porn would be a great way to distribute adult clips since your average male last about 2 + 4 minutes till hes done. But now your in a advertising dilemma, Since AEBN (only being used has an example here) offers so much (millions&millions) hours of footage and clips to promote and since pretty much nothing is truly required to become a sales person (affiliate) to "so call" ..access & promote they're content,
well then I bet a good number of sales come from they're own webmaster affiliates who purchase they're own promo product.
Tis being an excellent marketing strategy? correct?
...Find yourself a bunch of horny nerds on the Internet, make it has easy as possible for them to build pretty webpages and tell them not only can they view all the FREE PORN they want, But now they can try to sell it also WOO HOO!!!!!! what an excellent way to make a living RIGHT?


Ya know...
...for a guy who rights boring music, he sure does come up with creative marketing ideas. ...

Have you tried it either as a surfer or as a webmaster sending traffic? You ask them for their data, share your's. What have you got? What have you sent? How did it do?

I've work this adult thing in a different way & format than I've seen most of the people in the adult marketing function and perform. Call me lazy or whatever,
But the system used today and yesteryear: "The monkey see, monkey do" sales stratedy don't attract me, sorry.
I don't reinvest time or money into marketing or promoting websites, since I leave that to the site sponsors marketing team and they're so called affiliate webmaster to do.
Now, I'm not stating that my ways are correct or in anyway better? "and I'm sure Mr. Forest has a few opinions to say on that"
And if anything I probably have taken a few wrong turns with the 6 years doing this porn stuff. And I'm far from attempting to compete or demonstrate any stats with a top distributing company like AEBN.
So my numbers probably won't demonstrate anything your looking for. Due to retention sales are obtained totally different than a porn websites are done. being the Live Cam Industry is on a more personal standard with customers that just a quick bust a nut movie clip.



..By the way? Would u possibly be interested in showing your BOOBS???
I can't seem to get anyone else to show theres.

[gonzo]

Dude you are coming off as a real headcase here.

NO PROGRAM is going to post the numbers your looking for and Id be pissed if I was one of the webmasters that was on the list that were posted.

Heres a Boob Shot

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Dude you are coming off as a real headcase here.

NO PROGRAM is going to post the numbers your looking for and Id be pissed if I was one of the webmasters that was on the list that were posted.

Heres a Boob Shot

Gonzo, I'm not asking for names and addresses here man,
These are simply figures provided to intrigued interest in marketing a product. Lets say I'm interested in investing into the adult movie internet industry? as an investor, i want a few samples aside from a view marketing ideas used and proved to be successful of what my money is going to turn? fuck which webmaster sells more than another. I don't giva a crap.



you got hairy nipples man

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Rcourt64

Gonzo, I'm not asking for names and addresses here man,
These are simply figures provided to intrigued interest in marketing a product. Lets say I'm interested in investing into the adult movie internet industry? as an investor, i want a few samples aside from a view marketing ideas used and proved to be successful of what my money is going to turn? fuck which webmaster sells more than another. I don't giva a crap.



you got hairy nipples man

I can tell you from what little I see from my payout that VOD will make you more money over the longhaul and consistantly.

These arent company numbers they are mine.

From a studio or producers standpoint you dont need to be asking any of us on the web where the future is. Look at all the studios whining that DVD sales are down.

VOD sales are not.

Apply that as you will.

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by gonzo

I can tell you from what little I see from my payout that VOD will make you more money over the longhaul and consistantly.

These arent company numbers they are mine.

From a studio or producers standpoint you dont need to be asking any of us on the web where the future is. Look at all the studios whining that DVD sales are down.

VOD sales are not.

Apply that as you will.

I wish to apply & compare this to live feed porn, I don't believe this would be compared the same with VOD either.


Now go shave your chest