aebn for dummies

[miz_wright]

Originally Posted by Rcourt64

The question wasn't about what is "lucrative" or not.
So basically with just an xpeeps profile I'm qualified for access to webmaters webshell & promotional products and material? correct?

I don't make judgment calls about "qualified," but you can certainly create an account and access the sales tools. But without a destination page, they are fairly useless to the affiliate.

So, net/net: I had already answered the question as it was originally posed - there would have to be a page. Due to your additional questions, I fleshed it out a little more to resolve the most usual questions.

I am curious, though, as to what constitutes a "certified" webmaster. I haven't seen that certification before. Can I get it through University of Phoenix?

[TheEnforcer]

Used to be most affiliate programs made you list a domain you owned as a requirement when signing up.

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by LizAEBN

I don't make judgment calls about "qualified," but you can certainly create an account and access the sales tools. But without a destination page, they are fairly useless to the affiliate.

So, net/net: I had already answered the question as it was originally posed - there would have to be a page. Due to your additional questions, I fleshed it out a little more to resolve the most usual questions.

I am curious, though, as to what constitutes a "certified" webmaster. I haven't seen that certification before. Can I get it through University of Phoenix?

So then why is everyone wondering and complaining about a saturated porn market? and why sales have dropped?
Aside from now having access to millions of free clips and photos and other "So-called" paid promotional material, then who the fuck needs to buy porn anymore???
Keep in mind this is referring to about 98% of sponsors offering so-called FREE promo material

As for certified? Besides a few Microsoft paid certification and possibly a school diploma. This is all I can think of as proof.

Your missing my point Madam Liz, it's not about being a QUALIFIED Webmaster, Just the point that this jaycuzzi character, "who hasn't returned yet" needed to even ask this question. should be proof enough that he is possibly not a webmaster. But now he probably has access to shitloads of free AEBN porn, So why would he even need to purchase anything anymore?
Now I'm sure you could probably come up with some sort of sponsor representative to say how great business is and sales are booming. But ask the little guy webmaster if he feels the same way, and tell me you get the same answer?

[jaycuzzi]

Originally Posted by Rcourt64

So then why is everyone wondering and complaining about a saturated porn market? and why sales have dropped?
Aside from now having access to millions of free clips and photos and other "So-called" paid promotional material, then who the fuck needs to buy porn anymore???
Keep in mind this is referring to about 98% of sponsors offering so-called FREE promo material

As for certified? Besides a few Microsoft paid certification and possibly a school diploma. This is all I can think of as proof.

Your missing my point Madam Liz, it's not about being a QUALIFIED Webmaster, Just the point that this jaycuzzi character, "who hasn't returned yet" needed to even ask this question. should be proof enough that he is possibly not a webmaster. But now he probably has access to shitloads of free AEBN porn, So why would he even need to purchase anything anymore?
Now I'm sure you could probably come up with some sort of sponsor representative to say how great business is and sales are booming. But ask the little guy webmaster if he feels the same way, and tell me you get the same answer?

wow your pretty cynical. and im not a character im a real person. people using the barrier of the enternet to be rude when they would otherwise never talk to certain people that way in person . anyway thats another message board altogether. How else do you learn if you dont ask questions. How would anyone start and succeed if they listened to the rude cynical unhelpful remarks that some people spew on these boards.\

jaycuzzi

[Toby]

Originally Posted by jaycuzzi

...How would anyone start and succeed if they listened to the rude cynical unhelpful remarks that some people spew on these boards.

That has to be one of the most astute observations ever posted here by a newbie. Bravo, and welcome to Oprano.

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by jaycuzzi

wow your pretty cynical. and im not a character im a real person. people using the barrier of the enternet to be rude when they would otherwise never talk to certain people that way in person . anyway thats another message board altogether. How else do you learn if you dont ask questions. How would anyone start and succeed if they listened to the rude cynical unhelpful remarks that some people spew on these boards.\

jaycuzzi

1) Cynical is the person who paints pretty pictures with flowering words to impress.
Bluntness is just a straight out reply and to the point, no buttercup flavored sales pitch.

2) I'm in TampaBay, feel free to email me for my business number and I'll be more than happy to express my same exact thoughts and opinions either threw phone or in person.

3) In my eyes your just a character here, I don't know you from squat, you about has real as a wet dream to me right now.

4) I don't recall at any minute ever criticizing, oppressing, or shunning your question.
so I don't know where you got that idea.

and

5) Care to emphasize at what point my remark was unhelpful?

[miz_wright]

Originally Posted by Rcourt64

So then why is everyone wondering and complaining about a saturated porn market? and why sales have dropped?
Aside from now having access to millions of free clips and photos and other "So-called" paid promotional material, then who the fuck needs to buy porn anymore???
Keep in mind this is referring to about 98% of sponsors offering so-called FREE promo material

As for certified? Besides a few Microsoft paid certification and possibly a school diploma. This is all I can think of as proof.

Your missing my point Madam Liz, it's not about being a QUALIFIED Webmaster, Just the point that this jaycuzzi character, "who hasn't returned yet" needed to even ask this question. should be proof enough that he is possibly not a webmaster. But now he probably has access to shitloads of free AEBN porn, So why would he even need to purchase anything anymore?
Now I'm sure you could probably come up with some sort of sponsor representative to say how great business is and sales are booming. But ask the little guy webmaster if he feels the same way, and tell me you get the same answer?

Thanks, rCourt, for your answer, although I don't think a certification in Microsoft is necessarily qualification for webmastering.

It's interesting to note that you comment that Jaycuzzi "probably has access to shitloads of free AEBN porn" - when he would have access to the same sales tools any of our affiliates do (such as yourself), but would not be provided with free minutes or similar.

I am curious, though, since you brought it up, what your solution is to the "
98% of sponsors offering so-called FREE promo material" - what is the solution, to your mind, to drive traffic if not through promotional material? I don't think the problem is the material itself, if it's constructed in such a way as to be a tease. But I would like to hear your solutions.

It's really easy to tar anyone with the big, nasty brush of ruining the industry, but harder to give credit to those who try to further it and provide constructive, useful suggestions.

[AprilK-AEBN]

Originally Posted by LizAEBN

Thanks, rCourt, for your answer, although I don't think a certification in Microsoft is necessarily qualification for webmastering.

It's interesting to note that you comment that Jaycuzzi "probably has access to shitloads of free AEBN porn" - when he would have access to the same sales tools any of our affiliates do (such as yourself), but would not be provided with free minutes or similar.

I am curious, though, since you brought it up, what your solution is to the "
98% of sponsors offering so-called FREE promo material" - what is the solution, to your mind, to drive traffic if not through promotional material? I don't think the problem is the material itself, if it's constructed in such a way as to be a tease. But I would like to hear your solutions.

It's really easy to tar anyone with the big, nasty brush of ruining the industry, but harder to give credit to those who try to further it and provide constructive, useful suggestions.

NICE!!

[2MuchMark]

Hello -

You know, some of you in this thread should be really embarrassed right now.

Newcomer "Jaycuzzi" came to Orpano (with the tag line "The Business of Porn") and asked a very simple question (which you did not have to apologize for btw, Jaycuzzi). And instead of answering his question Gonzo (the WEBMASTER of this board), you spanked him with a "Why else would you sign up?" response. Did you happen to notice that this question wasn't even directed at you?

Next, LizAEBN gives him a perfect, professional answer. This thread should have ended right there.

But no. "RCourt64", who didn't seem to read Liz's response, has to spank Liz with a "Why don't you just straight out answer they're question?". Pretty rude.

The Gonzo spanks RCourt with a "Im not an account rep jack ass." !!!!

This is pretty unprofessional behavior from a site that touts itself to be "The Business of Porn" and to be honest, pretty embarrasing too. All Jaycuzzi wanted was a simple answer to a question, and it turned into a mud-sling.

Jaycuzzi: Please allow me to give you your first official Welcome to the Adult Internet Business. I promise you that there are plenty of solid, smart business people out there (Like Liz and APril of AEBN) that are willing to give you lots of GOOD advice.

There are also plenty of other boards out there with for you to explore. If you don't get the answers you need, please don't stop looking around.

Good luck,

Mark Prince
http://www.2Much.net
http://www.LiveCamNetwork.com

[Toby]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Jaycuzzi: Please allow me to give you your first official Welcome to the Adult Internet Business.

Ummm, scroll up about 5 posts. I think I see a welcome in there.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Hello -

You know, some of you in this thread should be really embarrassed right now.

Newcomer "Jaycuzzi" came to Orpano (with the tag line "The Business of Porn") and asked a very simple question (which you did not have to apologize for btw, Jaycuzzi). And instead of answering his question Gonzo (the WEBMASTER of this board), you spanked him with a "Why else would you sign up?" response. Did you happen to notice that this question wasn't even directed at you?

Next, LizAEBN gives him a perfect, professional answer. This thread should have ended right there.

But no. "RCourt64", who didn't seem to read Liz's response, has to spank Liz with a "Why don't you just straight out answer they're question?". Pretty rude.

The Gonzo spanks RCourt with a "Im not an account rep jack ass." !!!!

This is pretty unprofessional behavior from a site that touts itself to be "The Business of Porn" and to be honest, pretty embarrasing too. All Jaycuzzi wanted was a simple answer to a question, and it turned into a mud-sling.

Jaycuzzi: Please allow me to give you your first official Welcome to the Adult Internet Business. I promise you that there are plenty of solid, smart business people out there (Like Liz and APril of AEBN) that are willing to give you lots of GOOD advice.

There are also plenty of other boards out there with for you to explore. If you don't get the answers you need, please don't stop looking around.

Good luck,

Mark Prince
http://www.2Much.net
http://www.LiveCamNetwork.com

You really should get out more Mark.
Is this some more unsolicited advice?

Im still not interested.

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by LizAEBN

Thanks, rCourt, for your answer, although I don't think a certification in Microsoft is necessarily qualification for webmastering.

It's interesting to note that you comment that Jaycuzzi "probably has access to shitloads of free AEBN porn" - when he would have access to the same sales tools any of our affiliates do (such as yourself), but would not be provided with free minutes or similar.

I am curious, though, since you brought it up, what your solution is to the "
98% of sponsors offering so-called FREE promo material" - what is the solution, to your mind, to drive traffic if not through promotional material? I don't think the problem is the material itself, if it's constructed in such a way as to be a tease. But I would like to hear your solutions.

It's really easy to tar anyone with the big, nasty brush of ruining the industry, but harder to give credit to those who try to further it and provide constructive, useful suggestions.

Let me ask the Beautiful Liz a question before I answer to ALL of hers,
Can you show me an average account of how many of AEBN sales are obtained through retention? and what kind of percentage is from new customers?
Don't misunderstand me please Liz, I know your not in a position to divulge aebns financial income status, But I'm sure you could come up with some sort of general percentage stats for the public to back your answer please. If you don't know... "Go ask your boss" what was that chess playing guys name again???

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Hello -

You know, some of you in this thread should be really embarrassed right now.

Newcomer "Jaycuzzi" came to Orpano (with the tag line "The Business of Porn") and asked a very simple question (which you did not have to apologize for btw, Jaycuzzi). And instead of answering his question Gonzo (the WEBMASTER of this board), you spanked him with a "Why else would you sign up?" response. Did you happen to notice that this question wasn't even directed at you?

Next, LizAEBN gives him a perfect, professional answer. This thread should have ended right there.

But no. "RCourt64", who didn't seem to read Liz's response, has to spank Liz with a "Why don't you just straight out answer they're question?". Pretty rude.

The Gonzo spanks RCourt with a "Im not an account rep jack ass." !!!!

This is pretty unprofessional behavior from a site that touts itself to be "The Business of Porn" and to be honest, pretty embarrasing too. All Jaycuzzi wanted was a simple answer to a question, and it turned into a mud-sling.

Jaycuzzi: Please allow me to give you your first official Welcome to the Adult Internet Business. I promise you that there are plenty of solid, smart business people out there (Like Liz and APril of AEBN) that are willing to give you lots of GOOD advice.

There are also plenty of other boards out there with for you to explore. If you don't get the answers you need, please don't stop looking around.

She didn't answer his question, she threw him a sales pitch line.
and I ask for a more specific and clear form of an answer for this guys question, (reasoning already posted above)

Hey..? Your really into that spanking thing, huh?
you seem to enjoy this word allot
Here maybe you might enjoy some FREE AEBN SPANKING PROMOTIONAL MATERIAL FOR WEBMASTERS ONLY

and last, from what few comments & observation I've had with Mr. GonZo, he is very protective and careering when it comes to anything related to AEBN, so I expected a nasty comment like this from him. But he is never insulting and is very open arms to newbies & pros alike.
So don't judge a man from just one sentence.

Originally Posted by jaycuzzi

These are the people im looking for april liz prince and shell thanks. marching on to success in a fun bizness hope to meet you all in frisco for cybernet expo jne 10th thru 13th. thats actually how i came to this point. thru cozy frog then aebn then here. funny where life takes you. moving towards the top remembering all that helped!

Oh shit, Hammer should be making an appearance any minute now

[Hell Puppy]

What was the question again?

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

What was the question again?

How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop?

[miz_wright]

Originally Posted by Rcourt64

Let me ask the Beautiful Liz a question before I answer to ALL of hers,
Can you show me an average account of how many of AEBN sales are obtained through retention? and what kind of percentage is from new customers?
Don't misunderstand me please Liz, I know your not in a position to divulge aebns financial income status, But I'm sure you could come up with some sort of general percentage stats for the public to back your answer please. If you don't know... "Go ask your boss" what was that chess playing guys name again???

She didn't answer his question, she threw him a sales pitch line.
and I ask for a more specific and clear form of an answer for this guys question, (reasoning already posted above)

Actually, the entirety of his question was "do I have to have a website?"

I responded with "If you have a domain..." Which is an answer to the question he actually asked.

Because different webmasters have differnt goals, visions, and requirements, I am loathe to delinate them at length on a board just in case I hit on the right one -- so I asked him to contact either me or April directly. It seems to me HAD I gone to lengths to describe the myraid ways AEBN can work with a site, that would've been a sales pitch - saying "I'm happy to talk to you" hardly qualifies.

Should you like to discuss retention, I would be happy to do so at greater length off-board. However, the short answer is this: there are any number of webmasters who never make any money at all, simply because they do not promote their own site, refresh their galleries, use tools available to them, or other factors. There are other webmasters who make several thousand dollars a month in new and recurring revenues because they make their dites a priority. Much depends on the webmaster's approach.

As for "chess-playing guy," I really couldn't say - I've never known Jerry to play chess, but I will happily admit if I am mistaken.

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by LizAEBN

Actually, the entirety of his question was "do I have to have a website?"

I responded with "If you have a domain..." Which is an answer to the question he actually asked.

Because different webmasters have differnt goals, visions, and requirements, I am loathe to delinate them at length on a board just in case I hit on the right one -- so I asked him to contact either me or April directly. It seems to me HAD I gone to lengths to describe the myraid ways AEBN can work with a site, that would've been a sales pitch - saying "I'm happy to talk to you" hardly qualifies.

Should you like to discuss retention, I would be happy to do so at greater length off-board. However, the short answer is this: there are any number of webmasters who never make any money at all, simply because they do not promote their own site, refresh their galleries, use tools available to them, or other factors. There are other webmasters who make several thousand dollars a month in new and recurring revenues because they make their dites a priority. Much depends on the webmaster's approach.

As for "chess-playing guy," I really couldn't say - I've never known Jerry to play chess, but I will happily admit if I am mistaken.

Either show me some % number, or show me your boobs?
Which is it gonna be ???

[miz_wright]

Originally Posted by Rcourt64

Either show me some % number, or show me your boobs?
Which is it gonna be ???

Also, it occurs to me you never actually answered my questions. :P